Please use this thread to post moderating requests, problem crags and suggestions. If you do post about a crag then please use the Logbooks 'Insert crag link...' box above the reply box so that a link is included which makes things lot easier to sort than if just a crag name is written.
If you moderate a crag but find yourself ignoring the update emails, or you have lost interest, or you have moved away then please could you remove yourself as moderator using the button at the base of the crag moderation page. Then reply to this thread with 'Crag Available' and the crag link inserted so that someone else can volunteer.
If you would like to moderate a crag, and feel you could do a better job than the current moderator, then reply to this thread with 'Crag Requested', the crag name and link so that we can arrange a switch if appropriate. We can now add second moderators to crags as well.
Thanks for everyone's help with UKC Logbook moderating. We are aware that this is sometimes a tiresome task and all your efforts are appreciated.
The previous UKC Moderator thread has got too big and has now been locked. Here it is for reference - https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/rockfax/moderator_amnesty_2016-602132
This thread has now got too big and is archived the latest thread is here - https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/rockfax/ukc_logbook_moderators_thread-714884
Sorry, missed your message, you're added.
You've got it
You've got it. Thanks for the help.
Added as second moderator.
This crag is moderated by a band user so I can't email them to let me take it on. The crag currently has no routes entered on the database so I don't know why anyone would want to moderate it anyhow. I am planning on giving it a Lammergeyer treatment. A bunch of bouldery routes on solid looking rock.
I think my post from 12th November got overlooked. Re Aiguille d'Argentiere.
Thanks Kris, I have removed him from moderator for any crag.
Crag requested, Hi
could i be made joint moderator for BENAOJAN
i was added, but looks like i have since been removed
as a moderator are we able to merge duplicate climbs or is that something you need to do?
I get this e-mail every two or three months.
CRAG 'Erraid Crags':
Update 'The Dog's Doo Daa'
I don't see anything needing updated.
If you start to delete one of the climbs, it will prompt you to transfer the logbook entries.
> I get this e-mail every two or three months.
> CRAG 'Erraid Crags':http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/moderate.html?crag=10387Update 'The Dog's Doo Daa'
> I don't see anything needing updated.
I do. Someone has commented that the name is spelt wrong and another feedback is about where the crag is. Bottom of the second column.
This link should open for you - https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/modclimb.php?id=25585 - but not others.
See Mark's reply - try and delete it and it will prompt to move the ticks if there are any.
If the duplicates are on different crag entries then a super-moderator needs to move the routes to the same crag entry first. Often this is a symptom of a duplicated crag entry as well though which is also a super-moderator job.
Ok, cheers both.
> Don't follow. Where are the other entries?
When I "search by crag name" I get three options, one of which is titled slightly differently. I now assume they all lead to the same page; but that wasn't obvious at first.
Hi Alan could I be second moderator for the two Beinn Alligin crags please?
No match for crag id:13024
No match for crag id:2391
You've got them.
I noticed the classic scramble / poor weather mountaineering classic The Zig Zags on Gearr Aonach is duplicated across two crags on here:
Gearr Aonach: No match for climb id:225550, No match for climb id:248358, No match for climb id:352122
It doesn't really matter which one it goes in as it's close to the change of aspect on the hill, East Face is probably technically more correct.
Sorted although I made a bit of a boo-boo and some people who had logged summer ascents of Zig-Zag will now be showing them as winter. Apologies.
Thanks Paul, looks good.
Could you please amalgamate No match for climb id:63144 with the existing Being Alligin Complete Ridge Traverse (I/II) and delete the former please.
also can No match for climb id:196240 Be moved to No match for crag id:13024 crag.
Can No match for climb id:217707 be amalgamated with Pinnacle Ridge (Summer) (D) and delete the former.
finally can I be added as moderator for Sgurr nan Gillean
You can actually do the 1st one yourself as I see your the moderator.
Delete traverse and it'll ask if you wish to move the ticks.
Didn't know, cheers for that.
All done. As mentioned, you can combine routes in a single crag, you just can't move them between crags.
I had a chat with the moderator for the glen nevis bouldering pages. I thought it might be an idea to merge the pages for bouldering into one Nevis Bouldering crag page then put pins for each boulder on the map. Punk Punk felt that could work. Might make it less cluttered/more accessible.
Would it be possible to merge the following?
No match for crag id:9375
No match for crag id:9953
No match for crag id:10617
No match for crag id:10615
No match for crag id:10616
The bouldering from Whale Rock, Glen Nevis
No match for crag id:10619
if so could I share moderation and Il sort them out, add missing areas and add details for each boulder etc
Is there one of those crags in particular that you think they should all be moved to?
Probably Heather Hat or the Camerone Stone. They are the two main bouldering sectors in the glen. But would it then be possible to change the name of the crag?
Brilliant. thanks Paul. Il sort through it over the next few days.
can you make me jointvmoderator for Taffs Well main please?
Can you make me joint moderator with goi ashmore for Ferndale Quarry (Rhondda Cynon Taff).
Claret, Hortus, Le Joncas, Le Landeyran, Le Moulin de Bertrand, Le Prieuré, Roquebrun, Saugras, Saint-Bauzille de Montmel, Saint-Jean de Buèges, Saint-Guilhem-le-Désert, Thaurac, Collias, Pont Saint Nicolas, Rochefort du Gard, Russan, Seynes, Piedestal
Changing grades? With new definitive guides coming out, it seems appropriate to change the grades - does this mean previous votes will be lost?
I've merged those 2. Cheers.
You've got it.
Can I have Leather Tor please? I have emailed firemunki and he has been in contact and is in agreement. If you’d rather put me on as a second moderator that would be fine.
Lots of interest for moderating crags. Can someone please explain what this involves. Thanks.
I've sorted those out.
Sure, you're on there.
You're on there.
Moderator addition request - add users 'Tophe' and 'Bargate_champ' as moderators to the following crags in Guernsey please:-
Red Lion Bouldering, Vale Castle, Homptolle (bouldering), Beaucette, Nid L'herbe, Fort Doyle,Fort Le Marchant, Fort Pembroke, Bouldering Circuit, The Tip, Rousse, The Knife, Pecqueries Boulder, Port Soif, Grandes Rocques (Boulder Gulley), Fairy Ring (Bouldering), Les Tielles, Petit Bot, Moulin Huet, Doyle Rock, & Jerbourg Bouldering.
One or other of them are often moderators for the relevant crag already. They're going to look after the bouldering problem moderation for those crags. Many thanks in advance.
I'm replying so I've got links to the users and crags. I'll sort this out today.
> Red Lion Bouldering, Vale Castle, Homptolle Bouldering, Beaucette, Nid l'Herbe, Fort Doyle, Fort Le Marchant, Fort Pembroke, Bouldering Circuit, The Tip, Rousse, The Knife, Pecqueries Boulder, Port Soif, Grande Rocques Bouldering, Fairy Ring Bouldering, Les Tielles, Petit Bot, Moulin Huet, Doyle Rock, & Jerbourg Bouldering.
Thanks Paul. Whilst you're at it, I've just tried updating the description for the Jersey and Guernsey guidebook and it tells me I can't because my IP has been used to send spam. I can still post on the forums though.
Crag available: RAC Boulders
I took on RAC Boulders years ago when I was relatively local and the page was a mess. Now I'm very much non-local, and someone has just flooded the page with updates from the new North Wales Bouldering guide which I don't own so can't check.
> I'm replying so I've got links to the users and crags. I'll sort this out today.
Did you forget about this (a few posts up)?
Ooops, sorry. I'll sort this today.
You already are the 2nd moderator for Wildcat, maybe you need to refresh the crag page?
Crag Requested: Bone Hill Rocks
Ah, right thanks.
Could you please integrate the southern Krk / Croatia crags into one crag and include the current descriptions of crags as sector descriptions?
This new crag "Baska" should include -
No match for crag id:16718
No match for crag id:16746
No match for crag id:19717
No match for crag id:17107
I'm happy to stay on as moderator.
Thnks in advance!
I'll merge them all into one of the crags listed above. Can you suggest which one should be host please for the merge please?
Please merge them in Baska Sea Bag.
> Sorted that.
Happy to moderate or be a second moderator for these two crags. Live within a mile of them both and would like to update the descriptions and correct some wrong route information. Cheers, Cam
Sorry for double links!
Hi there, can I please be added as a second moderator to Cademan Woods and Broad Hill? I'd like to tidy up the problems, add dividers to separate them into the different areas, and add GPS coordinates for easier navigation of the woods.
No match for crag id:22048 also needs merging with the above crag page as it only contains duplicate problems.
You've got them.
You've got it
Added you and merged that other crag with it.
I would like to moderate Harland Edge in the Peak.
Thanks, I've added you.
Hi , crag requested , please can I volunteer for rheinstor (alport), either in place of the current moderator or in addition to.
That's merged Mike.
Thanks Paul, all sorted now (despite one guidebook having different names for some of the routes)
Heres a thought, I know it doesn't happen often but having an alias name for crags & climbs would be a useful addition.
We usually just stick the alias in brackets at the end. Not ideal but means it shows up the in the searches.
Thanks, if thats how it works then great, I'll do the necessary. This particular crag is covered by one swiss and at least two or more french guides and they just don't agree on the names (despite them being painted on at the bottom of the routes!)
Thanks for that, just out of interest, I've noticed that I haven't been added as moderator on the crag page and how I go about checking routes etc and updating the page for the crag? Will be out there on Monday checking a few things,
I think you just need to refresh the crag page to see the moderation link in the top right. You're definitely on there.
Thanks Paul. Ben Turner is writing a new guide for the woods and has asked if No match for crag id:22047 and No match for crag id:21806 could also be merged into Cademan Woods and Broad Hill since they are both located within it and will be covered in the guide.
You've got it.
Can I delete the crag BORNHOLM without deleting the location Bornholm? Maybe a silly question, but I wouldn't risk deleting it all.
No match for crag id:24640
Somebody has deleted it. Thanks.
The five climbs in the 'moved climbs' section at the bottom of No match for crag id:3936 should be moved to No match for crag id:22502.
I think Cheddar Gorge South has some routes out of order, and at least 1 that's in the guide but not on UKC. Also would like to add some Buttress dividers to the UKC list of Warlord Wall area, so that it reads a bit more like the latest Martin Crocker guide, also maybe to add some notes re multi-pitch routes which people sometimes get on whilst they are restricted!
Can I be added as joint moderator for this crag please?
Can Bargate Champ be added as a moderator to 'Les Autelets' crag in Sark please?
Great, thanks for the swift turnaround
Hi. Someone added a variation start as a route in its own right to a crag which I moderate: seemed like a reasonable idea, so I marked it as verified. Trouble is - there are about 80 logged entries of earlier ascents which are a mixture of the original and the variation. Is there a way to select the ascents of the variation and move them across? Thanks.
Could I please be added as a second moderator for Compton Verney. The Warwick University Climbing Club climbed on the boulder today and at the request of the art gallery I am producing a topo of the problems. Could the crag also be renamed so it doesn't have the unnecessary hyphen at the end? Cheers.
You've got it.
You've got it.
You've got it.
You've got it.
Can you make me joint/sole moderator for Nash Point:
Sure, you're on there.
I noticed that a new area was added to Switzerland - "Jungfrau" - with a few new crags in there. I updated the crag details changing the area to "Bern" for all of them (but without volunteering as moderator for any of them), hope that's ok.
> I'm pretty sure you can't do this...it's up to the logger to change their ascent from the original to the variation if they wish.
It's a pity, because at some crags it's a problem which never seems to get resolved. For example, at No match for crag id:3658 there's a whole extra buttress divider for "duplicate routes": one route has two entries and one has three, presumably purely to preserve a couple of stray logged ascents. There's then always the chance that people will log on the "wrong" entry, making the problem worse.
As moderator for the crag with the above climb, I have been alerted by a diligent user to the fact that it is included in the ticklist "Quality 6s + 7s in Yorkshire".
It is, sadly, inelligible on at least three counts! I can only suggest its prompt removal from the list.
Further housekeeping tasks might include: the guidebook entry "Plaisir Jura Filidor 2017" is a duplicate of the much more complete entry: "Schweiz Plaisir Jura Edition Filidor (2017)".
Re: 26 Oct 2018
In reply to Alan James - UKC and UKH:
Could I be added as second moderator for Uphill Quarry Please.
I live 10 minutes away and have been climbing there regularly.
Yes, no, maybe ?
Crag requested - alcalali
This has got a bit neglected, Im going there today and can hopefully get a full list. Can I be co-moderator please
Just stepped in to moderate Bunol (Valencia), and moved it to its correct position on the map (it was completely wrong, at a different "Bunol" out near Albacete). Not local or expert, but while I'm at it I'll get the various sectors sorted as best I can. There's an existing crag page for Carcalin (only three climbs logged), which is actually part of Bunol: there are various sectors called Carcalin (the one with the logged climbs is Carcalin: Corral de Cabras).
Could you merge the two crag entries, incorporating Carcalin under the general heading of Bunol, please? Thanks.
I've added you.
Thanks for that.
...... BTW the page for Wyndcliffe Quarry Wyndcliff Quarry appears to have a rogue extra info panel (on my machines, at least): the RAD link is displaying very large, and I can't minimise the extra info panel. Could you check that, please. Thanks.
Not seeing any weirdness in the RAD panel. Is it just on that crag page for you? Refreshing not help?
> Not seeing any weirdness in the RAD panel. Is it just on that crag page for you? Refreshing not help?
The problem with the huge link icons is specific to WQ, and refreshing doesn't help. The red RAD link icon and both the others underneath it appear huge (more than a whole screen), and get in the way of the little cross, so I can't minimise the panel - if I try I just get taken to RAD.
Not a huge problem, BTW - I can scroll down to the climbs, etc - just curious whether it's everybody or just me.
Google (system is OS X Yosemite 10.10.5)
Me again ... hopefully an easy question ....
Sport climbs with grade unknown: it's good to include them so that the bolt line is represented, if only to aid navigation. How do I get a question mark to appear for the grade? When I select sport for type of climb, the menu only gives numbers (at the moment I'm putting unknown grades as grade 1 and leaving them in red/unchecked).
You should be able to choose ? as the grade in Sport > French now.
could i be added as a second mod to Stoney Point in LA?
Can you add me to Pen-y-Fan please.
I've added you.
Reckon I could be added as a second moderator to duntelchaig? Just for the bouldering really. I've been up there quite a bit recently and it would be nice to sort out the bouldering section to get it more organised.
Thanks for fixing
Any reason I lost moderator access to Sgurr Thearlaich and Window Buttress on Skye? I had just updated the climbs on Window Buttress but the crag seems to have disappeared from the site and can't find it on a map. Also, looks like Sgurr Thearlaich has been combined with Sgurr Alasdair in some way which doesn't make sense as it's a peak in its own right.
Was also removed from Mullach nan Coirean but see that that hill has had all its crags put together.
Had wondered that as well but it's not showing up on that page, and I don't remember ever volunteering to moderate Banachdich so maybe in the works?
Would make more sense to have Window Buttress on Sgurr Dearg though, I'd say.
Edit: Just noticed Window Buttress has been added into Sgurr Dearg. Good job combining the crags together, makes it easier to navigate the map feature.
Just sent you a PM! Let me know if there are more issues!
Indeed it is! Fancy sorting Barra out? Otherwise I'll get round to it at some point.
Would you like to?
Remove the first 4 routes and put them in a crag called North West Barra Southwest Barra
Remove the next 6 routes and put them in a crag called Borve Barra
Then combine what is left with these.
No match for crag id:16726#overview
No match for crag id:21034#maps
No match for crag id:21033#maps
No match for crag id:21031#maps
If so I’ll reposition the first two crags and sort out the order of routes in the last one.
Sorted, let me know if anything else needs moving.
I could start modereting this crag Seutula, provided Toby doesn't mind... though he no longer lives around here so...
Also, if possible, could you perhaps change the name of the crag to simply 'Seutula', so loose the 'Church Crag' from the name as access is a bit so and so.
I've added you and changed the name.
Could you please combine the 5 crags I mentioned about 6 posts back and name it Barra SW.
Specifically I'm offering to sort the ones not in the Rockfax app.
A few things:
Please move the boulder problem Zorro: No match for climb id:267018 to the proper crag where an entry exists already for it: Piana del Remenno (South)
Also, could I be joint moderator on these three crags, where some work remains to be done:
I have not enquired, but I'm guessing a certain C. Craggs has better things to do and wouldn't mind ;-)
Bump for Carnedd y Filiast as above
Could I get some help splitting Apremont into separate crags please? Currently it is just one big crag, but because the different guidebooks seem to separate the areas differently it has always been tricky for me to decide how to split them. I've been using the bleau.info crags and it seems to be working.
The new crags would be as follows (They are the buttress names with stars on them currently, associated buttresses are immediately after):
- Apremont Buvette
- Apremont Butte aux Dames
- Apremont Bizons (Enfants, Nord/Bois, Sud/Cote)
- Envers d'Apremont (Dormir, El Paso)
- Gorges d'Apremont (Ouest, Centre, Chaos, Est, Solitude)
- Apremont Sully
- Apremont Portes du Desert
- Apremont Mare aux Biches
- Apremont Desert (Pilier, Point de Vue, Sanglier)
- Apremont Butte aux Peintres
- Apremont Brulis
Open to other suggestions if anyone has any experience with huge crags defined differently in different guidebooks,
Could you please put me on as joint moderator on Embsay Crag?
Karl Bromelow is the current mod and he has moved to Oz - he wanted to keep it on for sentimental reasons and I don't want to take it off him. However, it could do with sorting out.
I think the moderator for Roaches Lower Tier is inactive - Col Allott (https://www.ukclimbing.com/user/profile.php?id=30255).
No posts in the last 30 days. Last modified his profile 03 Jul 2014. Last logged climb was 25 Feb 2014.
Some friends and I were recently there and we think we've discovered a new boulder problem. Searched UKC, and peakbouldering.info and it definitely doesn't exist. Anyway, we have logged it on UKC, and it is been waiting for moderation for 2+ weeks. Big Bees Can't Fly is the name of the problem.
Not sure if Roaches Lower Tier needs a new moderator. Or how anyone goes about doing this.
Any help or guidance would be much appreciated.
Don't desperately want to be a moderator but Buachaille Etive Mor has 3 entries for curved ridge -
Curved Ridge (Summer) (M) (I'd have had it as a grade 3 scramble)
Curved Ridge (Winter) (Grade-3) (and this oddity uses the scrambling grade for the winter route)
But untangling the mess would be a PITA as different seasons ascents are all over the shop!
Crags, actually. The moderator "Emma" does not seem to be active and I did not get a reply to an email after 1 week. Several of the crags have unchecked routes.
Therefore please may I be joint moderator of the above crags.
p.s. On a side note, the eternal conundrum of UKC area assignment might be re-visited with respect to Northern Italy. In particular within the Region of Lombardia (itself an area) there are many other areas, some more deserving (e.g. Lecco & Como, Val di Mello, Val Masino (only 3 crags at the mo'), Valchiavenna) than others (Valtelina (5), Val Malenco (3), Val Camonica (5)), and with an inconsistent application among some nearby crags (e.g. Zoia vs. its near neighbours). Just to let you know!
Also if anyone has any information on some of the Yangshuo crags they want to share it’d be much appreciated.
Many thanks, Emilio.
P.S I’m sorry I haven’t replied to your email yet Alan.
I observe that my role in moderating Neouvielle wasn't pleasing someone - and it has been given away to someone who doesn't even know how to spell the name - Neovielle ! Clever stuff :o
I would have been happy to remain as a joint moderator - doubt the new man knows whats what in the climbing scene.
Hey! Any way to update Trial Wall Area to reflect the recent-ish retrobolting of a lot of the trad in there? Can't just change the entrys from E5 to 7a+, for example, but I'd happily add new entries for the updated climbs, keeping the old for historical logs?
Too many bolt clippers out there claiming E5.. ;)
I'll ask around! Blackman's Pinch is another one!
Sure, you've got it.
Many thanks Paul. I had come up with an elaborate way to move post 2015 logged entries from Lunatic (E3 5c), Moonchild (E4 6a) and Darth Vadar (E5 6a) to the sport version of the routes but I can’t delete certain routes (presumable because they’re part of the Rockfax database and Northern Limestone guidebook).
Is there any chance someone on your front can do it? Or another way around my slightly unhealthy obsession of logging things exactly?
I've added you.
Please can you delete the duplicate crag
No match for crag id:26850
While moving the ticks on the southeast ridge
No match for climb id:540635
To the existing crag Bielenhoerner
and the existing version of the climb
(inserting links not working)
Zap crag (Blue Mountains)
I've mostly sorted out Long Scar bouldering, but there are some duplicates with logged ascents on both, please can you merge them?
No match for climb id:26299 duplicate of Problem 12 (Rockfax Problem 2) (f5+)
No match for climb id:26300 duplicate of Problem 13 (Rockfax Problem 3) (f5+)
No match for climb id:26301 duplicate of Problem 14 (Rockfax Problem 4) (f5)
No match for climb id:133024 duplicate of Problem 22 (Rockfax Problem 9) (f5)
No match for climb id:133026 duplicate of Problem 25 (Rockfax Problem 12) (f2)
No match for climb id:133027 duplicate of Problem 26 (Rockfax Problem 13) (f4)
No match for climb id:133028 duplicate of Problem 27 (Rockfax Problem 14) (f2+)
No match for climb id:133029 duplicate of Problem 30 (Rockfax Problem 15) (f3)
No match for climb id:133030 duplicate of Problem 31 (Rockfax Problem 16) (f5+)
No match for climb id:133031 duplicate of Left Wall (f5+)
No match for climb id:133032 duplicate of Problem 33 (Rockfax Problem 18) (f5)
Thanks for doing that. Just delete the less important one and it will give you the option to move ticks.
Co-mod Crag request
Su casteddu, ulassai. lots of new routes here, I'm here ATM so can update
I was moderator of Carn Etchachan and now don't seem to be. I did a fair amount of work on it adding climbs and descriptions etc. Also the contact page didn't seem to be working to raise this.
I should add that I didn't give it up and would like to continue moderating it as it's a crag I know well and have already put a bit of work into.
Definitely an issue with the contact page for crag moderation, hasn't worked for me using chrome on laptop, desktop or tablet.
Here's the other message I tried to send:
Could you change the name of Braeriach Carn na Criche to Braeriach an Garbh Coire? That's what these corries are collectively referred to as in the guidebook and I've never heard climbers referring to them by the name they currently have.
Crag duplication to be tidied up:
This is the real Eppenberg, Canton (Area) Solothurn (moderated by myself)
This is the relatively false new entry "Eppenburg", Canton (Area) Aarau
No match for crag id:26728
If you delete the second crag and move the climbs to the first one, I will sort them out.
Pen y Fan logbook - climbing headwall is in a shocking state.
Can you add me as a moderator for
Pen y fan (Powys)
Camp 4 boulders in yosemite is in a pretty sorry state! I was just there, I could clean it up a bit, especially if it keeps raining and I never get out..
In reference to previous post No match for crag id:17823
I'm just trying to get the Sperlonga, Italy area in some order using the Roma Sud guidebook. To do so, please rename the current crag parete chiromante ( Monte Vanellamare) Monte Vanellamare and keep the routes there as bell nging to the subsector Parete Chiromante. Please also include the current sector Avancorpo di sinistra (No match for crag id:22900) as subsector of Monte Vanellamare as used in current guidebooks.
An overview of monte Vanellamare can be had on the first pic here: https://www.stadler-markus.de/klettern/sperlonga-sektor-chiromante.html
The Lewis sea-cliffs could do with some rearranging, at the moment there is Uig Sea Cliffs Central - Mhangarstaidh, which is actually just the Mangersta area, and a bunch of small separate entries for the rest of the Uig area. Based on the way the SMC guidebook organises them, here goes:
Rename Uig Sea Cliffs South - Breanish Uig Sea Cliffs South, Breanish, and add to it No match for crag id:10829
Rename Uig Sea Cliffs Central - Mhangarstaidh, Uig Sea Cliffs Central, Mangersta
Rename Uig Sea Cliffs North - Aird Uig Uig Sea Cliffs North, Aird Uig, and add to it No match for crag id:26715, No match for crag id:19237. The crag marker should be moved north to somewhere around the headland west of Aird Uig village.
Rename Uig Sea Cliffs North-East - Valtos Uig Sea Cliffs North-East, Valtos, and add to it No match for crag id:25361, No match for crag id:25460, No match for crag id:11419, No match for crag id:10832.
It would be ideal if the crag names are preserved as buttresses, otherwise I'm sure the moderators can sort it out.
Also on Lewis, No match for crag id:1323 should be deleted completely. The routes are in the database elsewhere and no logbook ticks to be moved.
I have a problem with Mouries. I've spent a bit of time sorting the South side but there are three routes that simply do not appear in the Alpilles guide (2010 - the latest as far as I know?). I've marked them 'cannot be confirmed'. Got an almost instant update request for 'Johnny Fais Moi Mal'. Now it obviously means a lot to somebody (!) So I'm loth to just delete it but the sole logbook entry is 'hidden'. I can't even email to ask for clues as I normally would. Suggestions?
And as for the logged route on Mouries Sud - 'The Little Blue Rabbit' (you KNOW who you are!) it's actually 'Le Petit Lapin Bleu' on Mouries Nord....
Yes, JASOSS was definitely severe here when I logged it a few summers ago. There also seems to be 2 claims to the 1st winter ascent.
Over added you.
I've added you.
This is sorted. Thanks for highlighting it.
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