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Existing Moderators
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New Moderators
If you would like to moderate a crag, and feel you could do a better job than the current moderator, then reply to this thread with 'Crag Requested', the crag name and link so that we can arrange a switch if appropriate. We can now add second moderators to crags as well.
Thanks for everyone's help with UKC Logbook moderating. We are aware that this is sometimes a tiresome task and all your efforts are appreciated.
The previous UKC Moderator threads have got too big and has now been locked. Here they are for reference
mod'ing Grand Ledge in Michigan USA
can't seem to select Top Rope and get the grading drop down to work?
If i select TR then the grade drop down only offers the option "grade"
several climbs are currently listed as sport but grand Ledge is TR only due to soft sandstone
Request Co-moderator for Ayagaures in Gran Canaria, Spain
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/ayagaures-17194/#main
Thanks.
Request Co-moderator for Ayagaures in Gran Canaria, Spain
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/ayagaures-17194/#main
Thanks.
Sorted
> mod'ing Grand Ledge in Michigan USA
> can't seem to select Top Rope and get the grading drop down to work?
> If i select TR then the grade drop down only offers the option "grade"
> several climbs are currently listed as sport but grand Ledge is TR only due to soft sandstone
Sorry this is a bit outside of my expertise, maybe worth dropping the UKC bods an email.
thanks anyway.
I have had a test with that crag and I'm able to set it as top rope, and set the grades all okay
Can you be more specific about where the issue is happening, and what browser etc?
No probs, all sorted.
Crag Requested Montgròs-Plecs Montgròs-Plecs
Thanks!
No probs, just added you as main mod.
Hello, please can I request co-moderator for Longis wall and Odeon in Alderney.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/longis_wall-23306/
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/odeon-23878/
Thanks
Sorted
The following two routes need merging. Seemed quite a good route to me, not sure why it doesn't get any stars in rockfax, is 2 in YMC which seems fair and matches the votes. 3 stars as per the other logbook entry is probably a bit much but then again if compared to Noonday Ridge I thought it was better.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/caley_crags-540/tippling_crack-329...
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/caley_crags-540/tipling_crack-3557...
Not sure if this is the best place for this but could Artificial crags have a different colour on the logbook maps and/or a logbook option to hide them on the maps/searches as there seems to be an increasing number of urban building crags some of which are pretty pointless which show up when using the find a crag functions
There are plenty of examples if you look at the maps, but this is one of the worst that came up recently
No match for crag id:27676
So if crag is classified as artificial it shouldn't appear when searching for trad or bouldering under discipline for example. But should be searchable under a new category called Artificial.
I have the same issue with Malibu Creek, tried both Edge and Chrome. When I select TR the Grade drop down menu doesn't have any options available.
> The following two routes need merging. Seemed quite a good route to me, not sure why it doesn't get any stars in rockfax, is 2 in YMC which seems fair and matches the votes. 3 stars as per the other logbook entry is probably a bit much but then again if compared to Noonday Ridge I thought it was better.
I've merged those two together. I deleted the one that wasn't in rockfax and transferred the tricks over, dont think I can update the stars on the rockfax one unfortunately.
The weather forecast never gets below 0C for the day but much lower for the hour.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kitsiputous-18868/#weather
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/anijaaq-30258/#weather
Any chance to request co-moderator for Limekilns - Fife, Scotland.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/limekilns-1319/
Cheers
Of course, just added you.
Crag requested Carrock Fell Crag
> Crag requested Carrock Fell Crag
It looks like there's a couple of mods on there already so I can't add you without removing one of them. Would you mind messaging them to see if they'd be happy to swap?
Yeah no worries, I’ve messaged them both. I was removed recently as moderator for this crag after spending the last few years tidying it up. No one messaged me to ask to swap - was there a reason I was removed?
Thanks, Duncan
> Yeah no worries, I’ve messaged them both. I was removed recently as moderator for this crag after spending the last few years tidying it up. No one messaged me to ask to swap - was there a reason I was removed?
Whoops! That was probably me, sorry! Thanks for your work tidying it up.
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Hi Remus, I tried to email this with the contact form but kept getting a server error so apologies if you've already received the message!
Badger Rock is both it's own crag: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/badger_rock-3825/ and a buttress on Kentmere Boulders: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kentmere_boulders-1784/ . Some Badger Rock problems are on one crag OR the other and some are on both (it's a bit of a mess).
Can you moving the Badger Rock buttress at Kentmere to a seperate buttress on Badger Rock? I raised doing this with Paul a couple of years ago and he suggested doing it this way as there is a BMC RAD entry for Badger Rock, but I never followed up on it at the time.
If you add me as a second mod for badger rock I will merge the obvious duplicates I can find.
Cheers,
Dale
Crag requested: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kilminning_castle_rock-24073/
Can I be made second mod, current mod happy for someone based more locally to help out
Cheers
I got those emails so it must be erroring out after they're sent.
I've moved everything under 'badger rock' buttress in the kentmere boulders to the badger rock crag and made you second mod. Thanks in advance for tidying it up.
> Crag requested: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kilminning_castle_rock-24073/
> Can I be made second mod, current mod happy for someone based more locally to help out
> Cheers
No probs, added you as second mod. Thanks for your help!
Can I please get added as a second mod to Sheep Pass
It is missing a lot of problems and I am in Joshua Tree now so can clean it up.
Not sure if it's something you can do, but can you stop the dry tooling crag Leacanashie Woods Crag - Lochcarron from appearing on the winter conditions page.
Sorted
> Not sure if it's something you can do, but can you stop the dry tooling crag Leacanashie Woods Crag - Lochcarron from appearing on the winter conditions page.
One for the UKC bods I think. Im not sure how crags are selected to go on to the winter conditions page, there's not an obvious flag at the crag level that I can see. Might just be whether there's mixed/dry tooling routes at the crag, in which case I guess it'd need some code changes?
currently not working using Chrome on a PC
> One for the UKC bods I think. Im not sure how crags are selected to go on to the winter conditions page, there's not an obvious flag at the crag level that I can see. Might just be whether there's mixed/dry tooling routes at the crag, in which case I guess it'd need some code changes?
I think the grades of the routes need changed from M to D.
Got to the bottom of this. Somehow `top-rope` snuck into the grade drop down. the way to signify it is a top rope route is to select that symbol slightly lower down on the page.
Sorry for the confusion
> I think the grades of the routes need changed from M to D.
Good knowledge, I've changed all the routes over to D grades, hopefully that'll do the trick.
Can I be added to Ousel's Nest as a mod please? Keen to sort out the trad routes a bit.
Looks like there's a couple of mods on there already, could you drop them an email to see if they're happy to swap?
I've dropped them a line to see if they're happy for me to take over temporarily.
Can I be added as second moderator for gandia please ,
Crag Requested
Gandia : https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/gandia-1706/
It looks like there's been some permissions changes on on the backend so I can't add second mods at the mo. I've emailed the UKC bods, but in the meantime it'll have to wait.
No problems Mr Remus 🙂
the following summer scramble: Crib Lem Spur (Llech Ddu Spur) (Grade-1) the winter version is on a different crag: Crib Lem (II 2)
I don't know the area well enough to know if other routes need moving but this certainly does.
> Can I be added as second moderator for gandia please ,
> Crag Requested
Paul sorted the permissions issue (thanks!) so I've sorted this one for you.
I haven't had a response from either mod so I don't know what the next step is in this scenario!
> I haven't had a response from either mod so I don't know what the next step is in this scenario!
Thanks for trying. I've made you second mod for the mo, might have to switch you back out fi the previous mod gets in touch.
Cheers Remus; its a bit more shipshape now.
Hi Remus, I sent you an email last Tuesday and I was wondering if it came through ok? Thanks.
Crag available, I moved away fromChampfromier in Ain, France years ago, so open to someone else.
This summer route has a winter grade here.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/garbh_bheinn_highland-554/butterkn...
Sorry, been busy with work the last few weeks, I've seen your emails though and will get to it.
No worries, no rush just wanted to make sure the message had got through!
Can I be added to Cringlesport as a mod? There are a few boulder problems with route grade on there which need sorting. Cheers!
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May I request co-mod for Polney in Dunkeld, Scotland?
Thanks
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/polney_crag_craig_a_barns-35/#over...
Request:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/albarracin-8221/
Note there are currently 2 mods already. I've spoken to Emilio and he's happy to step down and is trying to, but having trouble getting the page to load on his mobile.
I've swapped you in for Emilio. Thanks for checking with the existing mod
Crag requested, a co-moderate would be fine just to sort out the order of the routes:
Sorted
I'd like to reiteraite co-mod permission for Polney Crag (Craig a Barns). Spoken to the current mod, and he's happy to deal with sport side of things, and I'll tidy up the trad, which has duplicates, routes in wrong order, etc.
Polney Crag (Craig a Barns) : https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/polney_crag_craig_a_barns-35/
Many thanks
I've added you as the second mod. Thanks for your help.
Darwen Hill is a hill, not a crag, can it be deleted?
Same with Parlick Pike
I think these are part of the UKH system where you can log summits e.g. https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/snowdon_yr_wyddfa-4025/#maps so it's not clear to me that they should be deleted. I would defer to one of the UKC mods though, as they'll be able to give a better answer around what should be included as a summit and how they fit in to the logbooks system.
Thank you!
There is a buttress called Masia on the Albarracín page: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/albarracin-8221/#masia. I can't find this area in either of the guidebooks and no info comes up on google so I think someone has added it accidentally.
There is a Masia Area buttress on this crag: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/can_boquet-21009/#masia_area. Can I suggest moving this buttress to the Can Boquet page? I think it's more likely to below there.
Cheers!
Good spot, seems weird that someone one have added it to Albarracin if it did belong in Can Boquet given the crags are miles apart though. Im tempted just to delete the affected lines from albarracin given they've only had a single log each.
I'll drop the chap who's logged them a quick email and see if they can shed any light on the situation.
Hi there
I would like to be added as a moderator for Anglezarke. I have contacted the current moderators who have agreed I can take over.
Graeme Hammond has removed himself to allow me to be added, so can I please be added?
Thanks
Rob
No probs Rob, I've added you as a mod.
Shifting ticks / duplicate climbs.
Spdermonkey climbed "Sticky Slab" at Trevose this is a duplicate of Captain Barnacles (D). Looking at the logbook entries, Spidermonkey now appears as having climbed "Captain Barnacles", but this does not appear in his logbook, instead, "Sticky Slab" is still there clicking on which gives "error no such climb in the database". Similarly for some other routes.
One for the UKC bods really, but sounds like a caching issue. I'd try a hard refresh (ctrl+shift+r) and see if that fixes things.
Request Co-Moderator for Lincoln Woods, RI, USA
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/lincoln_woods-6487/#overview
thank you!
No probs, just added you as second mod.
Co-moderator request please for Lennoxtown boulders. (have spoken to current moderator)
No probs, sorted.
hi
can I change the crag name for gimblet rocks to carreg imbill for the forth coming guide book
cheers phil
> hi
> can I change the crag name for gimblet rocks to carreg imbill for the forth coming guide book
> cheers phil
Makes sense, I've also added a note to the crag description with the old name which will hopefully help anyone searching for the crag via the old name.
Can I request co-moderator for Craig Y Llyn, in Dyffyn Gwynant, please?https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/craig_y_llyn_gwynedd-813/#craig_y_...
Thanks
Sorted. Pre-emptive thanks for helping clean it up
Crag Requested.
Please can you add me as a second moderator to Warton Pinnacle Crag, link below:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/warton_pinnacle_crag-469/
Thank you.
Col.
Hi,
Could Emsworthy Rocks be split off from Saddle Tor and made a crag in its own right?
Could I also become moderator of it if so? I have lots of photos.
Its not got many boulders at present but there is potential for it to grow considerably and it will become confusing to have them listed together.
Cheers
Ry
> Crag Requested.
> Please can you add me as a second moderator to Warton Pinnacle Crag, link below:
>
> Thank you.
> Col.
No probs, just added you in. Out of interest is there any particular work you had in mind on the crag? The page looks pretty up to date (with the caveat that I've not been there).
> hi Remus
> my error. Gimlet rocks is carreg yr imbill. I forgot the yr
> thanks Phil
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Hiya,
Yes. A lot of clearing work needs to happen around the Aviary Walls area, currently most of those routes aren’t really climbable at the moment. There are also inconsistencies with some boulders that need resolving. I live underneath the crag and am writing it up for the next guidebook, so do a lot of work there and around all the other crags in the AONB.
I asked Chris to drop off as moderator so that I could take over. He has been doing a good job upto now on the UKC side, but doesn’t do much physical work at the crag (hence it seems updated).
Thank you for adding me.
Kind regards,
Col.
Ace, great work Col, thanks for cleaning up the crag (the actual crag and the UKC data).
and Cwm Gwern Gof have been added to the database twice - same crag. The first one is incorrectly classified as Anglesey (though mapped in the right place).
Please could I be added as a moderator for Giggleswick South.
I've been developing some bouldering and would like to set it up on ukc
> and Cwm Gwern Gof have been added to the database twice - same crag. The first one is incorrectly classified as Anglesey (though mapped in the right place).
Good spot, I've deleted the first crag.
> Please could I be added as a moderator for Giggleswick South.
> I've been developing some bouldering and would like to set it up on ukc
Intriguing! I've added you as a second mod, interested to see what you've been working on.
> Hi,
> Could Emsworthy Rocks be split off from Saddle Tor and made a crag in its own right?
> Could I also become moderator of it if so? I have lots of photos.
> Its not got many boulders at present but there is potential for it to grow considerably and it will become confusing to have them listed together.
> Cheers
> Ry
Could you setup a new crag for Emsworthy rocks? I don't know enough about the location etc. to do it myself. Once you've set that up just drop me a message and I can move the climbs across from saddle tor to the new crag page.
Hey Remus, please can you add me to Windgather Rocks and Oldgate Nick as an extra moderator?
Sorted. https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/windgather_rocks-109/nur_gertraumt... looks like a nice new addition, good effort!
All done, All that is left is to transfer the 10 existing climbs from Saddle Tor .
Cheers
Ryan
Could I be added as a second mod for Gallt Yr Ogof?
Sorted
> All done, All that is left is to transfer the 10 existing climbs from Saddle Tor .
> Cheers
> Ryan
I did this a few days ago but forgot to let you know, sorry!
Could I be added as second mod for Craig Ddaear (Crag of the Earth)?
I must be missing something or having a bad day but I can't see how I get to the 'Moderators Page' of a crag I moderate and wish to update. Where's the button gone?!
Just above "Climbs at this crag", but on the right side of the screen.
I lost it once too...!
Thanks, that was where I remembered it being but there's nothing there. It's just "View Partners' Ascents" and "Display Options".
Those buttons are below "Climbs at this crag" (at least on my display), whereas the "Climbs moderation page" button is above that title.
I assume you are logged in, and you are still moderator for that crag? You should be able to check by scrolling to the end of the list of routes on your crag, where the moderators are listed.
If your profile is still listed there, I'm afraid you're going to need a tech bod to sort you out!
Neil
I can see a 'Climbs moderation page' button on each of the 3 crags you're listed as moderator for...
... though I appreciate that doesn't help you!
Sorry yes, they're on the line below that, and pretty much align with the "You've Ticked x% (y of z climbs) of this crag."
I'm still moderator of those 3 crags and am listed as such, I'm just missing that 'Climbs Moderation Page' button. Very odd. I'm wondering if it might be linked to having been banned for a week a few months back and some setting, which was temporarily disabled as a consequence, hasn't been switched back.
Thanks for the suggestions though, but it looks like it's one for the tech team.
Aah, I've just noticed that if I click the 'Update this Crag' button on the RHS below the main approach notes box, I get the missing "Climbs Moderation page" so can get to it that way!
Please could No match for climb id:693617 and Géraniums (6a+) be merged?
Also, I can no longer see the link to the moderation page from the main crag page, which is odd.
Any preference on which one is the correct one?
The original one with the s, I suppose. Thanks!
Cool, sorted.
Could I be added as a second mod for Petit Clocher du Portalet?
Of course, just added you in as a second mod.
Can I get added as a mod for Torquay bouldering stuff please?
No probs, added you as a second mod for each of those crags.
Please can I be added as co-moderator to Wild Iris? Thanks!
Sorted. Jealous!
May I request co-moderation for Glen Clova (Red Craig), please.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/red_craig_glen_clova-73/
Already in touch with current mod.
Many thanks
Neither moderator is now active, so I’m requesting replacing either of them.
Unapproved climbs such as “36 Chambers of Death”, “Enter the Dragon” and “C.R.E.A.M.” have been unapproved for 1-2 weeks.
Actually just saw EDGS requested CoMod a few days ago. Don’t know why he hasn’t approved. Can I request replacing the other inactive mod then? BunnAroundTheBloc?
> May I request co-moderation for Glen Clova (Red Craig), please.
> Already in touch with current mod.
> Many thanks
No probs, just added you as second mod.
> Actually just saw EDGS requested CoMod a few days ago. Don’t know why he hasn’t approved. Can I request replacing the other inactive mod then? BunnAroundTheBloc?
I've added you in place of BunnAroundTheBloc, would you mind dropping him a quick email via his profile to let him know about the change?
Nice effort on your recent additions to that face.
Could I be added as a second Mod for Wilton 1 please? I'd like to update the grades/stars/descriptions on some sectors in line with the upcoming guidebook
Can I please get added as a second mod for Dove Rock
Climbing here and would like to clean it up.
Sorted
I added you as second mod a few days ago but forgot to post here, sorry!
Any chance you can also add me as second moderator for Ten Sleep Canyon? You would love it out here!
Please can you add me in place of Ellis on: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/lakeside_boulders-12492/
I'm sure Ellis is inactive and has been for some time. I emailed his 8 weeks ago to check but got no response so I'm sure that confirms my suspicious.
Cheers!
> Please can you add me in place of Ellis on: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/lakeside_boulders-12492/
> I'm sure Ellis is inactive and has been for some time. I emailed his 8 weeks ago to check but got no response so I'm sure that confirms my suspicious.
> Cheers!
No probs, added you in. Thanks for trying to get in touch with the existing mod first.
> Any chance you can also add me as second moderator for Ten Sleep Canyon? You would love it out here!
Added you. Looks mint!
Please could you add me to the moderators for Penmaenbach Quarry. Chris Calow has added several new routes in the last couple of years and despite repeated requests to the present moderator they have not been put in the right places. I know where the routes go and would like to sort it out, thanks.
Request co-mod for Huntley's Cave - Scotland.
Current mod is unresponsive.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/huntlys_cave-391/
Many thanks
I've added you in as second mods on the requested crags. Thanks for your help with the logbook upkeep.
Hi there, Could i please request to be added as a 2nd moderator on the "Longleat Boulders" crag
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/longleat_boulders-3088/#overview
Many thanks
Sorted
No probs, added you in as second mod.
I emailed a few months ago offering to moderate for a number of crags I frequent thag I felt needed tidying up and never received an email back. I also highlighted how I think Coniston bouldering as a crag seems messy given it covers 6 crags some of which are quite big and fairly far from each other. I offered to help implement splitting these out if needed and moderate them all I believe but never heard anything back. Has this been lost in transit?
Sector 1 is banned and the bolts there have been chopped.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chamandrin-2736/#overview
Sorry about that Dan, I've had a search through my inbox and can't find your email. Generally better to put stuff in this thread rather than emailing me.
Thanks for the update, I've added an access note and marked the routes in sector 1 as unclimbable.
Hello,
A bit random maybe but it's always frustrated me that 6 crags are listed under Coniston bouldering as one crag (Nettle crag, Dow crag, Coppermines, Virtual Crag, Lad Stones, Cove Stones) and I wondered how difficult it might be to split them into their separate crags?
I'd be happy to help moderate each of the seperate crags if needed or if support in the transition was needed. It just seems a disservice to the quality of these crags to have them all lumped together when many of them would involve driving followed by a large walk between and they really feel like separate crags in my opinion.
Also I'm regular in attending the Bowderstone & Kentmere boulders if either need an additional moderator (Kentmere has no second mod)
Please be in touch regardless of what you intend or don't intend to do, and if there's anything I can do to support please let me know
Dan
Above what I emailed, I took it from the contact form email that came back to me from Ukc so I assumed it had been delivered... Have also messaged you on the other site as I was getting a network error here.
The Les Bans crag would be most appropriate of the three. There are some routes listed at all three crags. If you consolidate them and make me a moderator I will tidy up the crag.
Hi, could I be added as a moderator for Craig Yr Wrysgan please?
Can the following route Let's Dance (E1 5a) as described in the Northern Wired guide be accepted in the database, which previously I added it with a full description but it has since been deleted so have added it again, but without description. Given this is in a guide i think it should be accepted, its far better than some of the pointless linkups that have been added as "new routes" on some gritstone edges.
> The following crags would be better consolidated into one crag:
> Les Bans
> The Les Bans crag would be most appropriate of the three. There are some routes listed at all three crags. If you consolidate them and make me a moderator I will tidy up the crag.
I've moved everything to Les Bans and made you a mod.
> Hi, could I be added as a moderator for Craig Yr Wrysgan please?
I've added you as second mod.
Sounds sensible, I've marked it as accepted. Whereabouts on the crag should it live? I'll shift it to the correct spot.
I'd put it before Major Tom (E2 5c)
Thanks, I have tidied things up.
Mega, thanks Martin.
Curiously, there is -AFAIK- only 1 4star route in the UKC DB, Hung Over (6a+)
How did this happen?
Looks like it's a carry over from the rockfax db, though that just shifts the question to why it's 4* in rockfax! It also seems to be incorrectly marked as a DWS in rockfax.
You can find mod Col on Facebook, he’s normally pretty responsive
Crag requested: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/sourton_tors-1523/
Added you as second mod.
Hi Remus
Could you please add me as a second mod to
I’ll take care of any boardwalk/tube stuff on there.
Cheers
Jack
> Hi Remus
> Could you please add me as a second mod to
> Dovedale
> I’ll take care of any boardwalk/tube stuff on there.
>
> Cheers
> Jack
Sorted.
The Top 50 routes got 4 stars but these should actually still only show 3 on UKC... Ooops!
I've corrected the DWS tag, it should be synced to UKC soon.
I've finally got around to splitting up Albarracin into separate crags. Hopefully a bit easier to work with now.
Cheers. Probably a good idea as it was pretty unwieldy! One thing, I think some of the sectors are almost offshoots/continuations of others so might be worth merging a few of the smaller areas back together. I'll try and have a look at the guidebook and figure out the most logical splits soon and let you know.
I've already merged some together into to the guidebook areas. I based them off this list:
https://p.calameoassets.com/211104202439-80181a69df9f755a35bd885d968c0d59/p...
Hello!
I'd like to add some routes and correct the order of these crags:
I tried contacting the current moderator (same for both) but didn't get a response, I could just be a temporary second.
Also a pet peeve of mine is that Höllental should be spelt Höllental but there is another Höllental elsewhere - not sure if that would be problematic to correct? I would be happy to organise Höllental better as well, but there are a few hundred routes that belong under this name (which would mean merging other crags into it as buttresses e.g. Mittagstein, Fuchslochgraben, Weisse Wand, and more), or the existing crag would need to be divided into various crags (including then deleting duplicate routes). I am never sure what is preferred in such cases!
Thanks!
Crag requested
Hi Remus,
Could you please add me as a second moderator for Silvretta:
Seems like theres a lot of unaccepted climbs and some grades need changing ☺️
Hi Joe, I've added you to those crags.
Arnsteinwand, Rastenfeld and Höllental
I've done the rename too. The system checks for duplicate names periodically and appends the area name when it's used in the searches so it'll eventually appear as Höllental - Lower Austria.
Whether we merge or keep as separate crags usually depends on how big they are. If you find climbs at Höllental that should be elsewhere, can you put them under a new buttress (like Move to Mittagstein or something) and let me know and I'll move them over to the right crag.
I've added you Sara.
Cheers Paul
Can I be added to Creag nan Luch, it needs a little tidying up.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/creag_nan_luch-10145/
Added you as second mod.
No probs Jack, added you in.
Hi Remus
can you add me as a moderator for porth yr aber, near molfre. I’ve been adding to this venue and need to tidy up the page/ add buttresses etc
Thanks Paul, will post once I've made some updates!
Hi again,
Just found a typo in the name of this crag Brückenfels, it should be Brückenfels. Thank you!
Thanks, updated.
Crag Requested - Cheedale Upper
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/chee_dale_upper-10865/#secteur_nad...
Sent a few messages and no replies so nut sure how active moderators are
Could I be added as a second moderator for: Creag nan Clag
Could you combine these two routes (as they are the same) The Gift Link (8a+) and No match for climb id:158709 Keeping the name as "The Gift Link" and the grade at 8a+ ?
Thanks.
> Could you combine these two routes (as they are the same) The Gift Link (8a+) and No match for climb id:158709 Keeping the name as "The Gift Link" and the grade at 8a+ ?
Hopefully now sorted as you wanted Callum.
Thanks Neil, that's excellent. Could I be added as a second moderator? I'd like to tidy up the recently added routes.
> Crag Requested - Cheedale Upper
> Sent a few messages and no replies so nut sure how active moderators are
I've swapped you out for Alan.
> Thanks Neil, that's excellent. Could I be added as a second moderator? I'd like to tidy up the recently added routes.
Just added you as the second mod.
Sorted
Crag requested:- Mother Carey's Kitchen (https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/mother_careys_kitchen-801/)
Please can I be the second moderator?
> Crag Requested - Cheedale Upper
> Sent a few messages and no replies so nut sure how active moderators are
Hang on a minute. I replied to you straight away(unless it didn't send)telling you that a moderator can't change grades of app and in print published routes marked with an "R".
I agree Buster probably is 8b but only Alan/RF can change that.
I downgraded Hardrobe for you because it's a new route and not published and voting and comments overwhelming supported a regrade.
Could also be something benign like an email going to spam?
> Crag Requested
> La Baie des Milliardaires
Sorry, missed this for some reason. Added you as a second mod.
> Hi Remus,
> Can I please be added to
> Thanks
No probs, added you as a second mod.
Crag Request to moderate
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/paynes_ford-2199/
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/pohara-2902/
Thanks
Mark W
Crag Requested- Craig Yr Ogof (Cwm Silyn)
Also user JonesE https://www.ukclimbing.com/user/profile.php?id=128714 would like to be secondary moderator
Np, added you as a second mod on both those crags.
Sorted
Please add me as co-moderator to the following
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/hanham_woods-28474/
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/avon_valley_sandstone-19834/#maps
There is lots of duplication etc that needs sorting out.
Thanks.
Is it possible to adjust a topo after it's been approved
No probs, added you as second mod on both of those.
Hmm, not sure on that one, sorry!
Hi. I volunteered to moderate this crag and then found it was 20 miles away from the right place and there are already two other competing entries!
Could you just delete this one please?
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/weise_wand_frankenjura_de-25071/
There are updates, confirmations and corrections needed at Creag Dubh (Scotland) for a few years now. I've been in touch with both moderator a few times, and never got a reply nor any action taken to update the log.
Time to clean house, I'd say.
Request mod for the following:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/creag_dubh_newtonmore-37/
I've added you.
This is all sorted Remus.
It looks like these all need a 2nd mod/are accumulating unmoderated boulders:
Cuvier Est (Bivouac)
Rocher du Cassepot
Rocher De Milly
Rocher des Souris
I'm happy to be the 2nd mod if needed.
Apremont looks like it needs splitting into the separate crags much like consiton boulder I mentioned before as its a mess to be honest and annoying as an end user to navigate. If I can assist with either let me know.
don't think there is any point contacting the mod as they can't change RF names/grades but the following climbs need their names/grades assigning correctly. There is also an issue with which name is displayed for the RF assigned route in the app vs on ukc.
The Raven Direct (E2 6b) - this seems to be the non RF linked route so should probably be call the direct and graded E2 6b
The Raven (HVS 5b) - this seems to be the RF linked route which is call The Raven on both the app and book version and graded HVS 5b (5c seemed more likely)
No match for crag id:12058 should be deleted and its climbs put in the Grochan Riverside section of Cwm Glas Bach Boulders.
> It looks like these all need a 2nd mod/are accumulating unmoderated boulders:
> Cuvier Est (Bivouac)
> Rocher du Cassepot
> Rocher De Milly
> Rocher des Souris
> I'm happy to be the 2nd mod if needed.
> Apremont looks like it needs splitting into the separate crags much like consiton boulder I mentioned before as its a mess to be honest and annoying as an end user to navigate. If I can assist with either let me know.
I've added you as a second mod for those crags. I haven't done anything with apremont as I suspect that'll be a pretty substantial job!
> don't think there is any point contacting the mod as they can't change RF names/grades but the following climbs need their names/grades assigning correctly. There is also an issue with which name is displayed for the RF assigned route in the app vs on ukc.
> The Raven Direct (E2 6b) - this seems to be the non RF linked route so should probably be call the direct and graded E2 6b
> The Raven (HVS 5b) - this seems to be the RF linked route which is call The Raven on both the app and book version and graded HVS 5b (5c seemed more likely)
I've tweaked the names and grades on those per your suggestion. Might be a little confusing for the 3 people who previously logged the non-RF one which is now called "The Raven DIrect" and has been upgraded to E2 but hopefully they'll be able to work it out.
> No match for crag id:12058 should be deleted and its climbs put in the Grochan Riverside section of Cwm Glas Bach Boulders.
Sorted.
Coed Dinas-ddu should be renamed Coed Dinas-ddu (as it encompasses more than just those two boulders).
> Coed Dinas-ddu should be renamed Coed Dinas-ddu (as it encompasses more than just those two boulders).
Sorted. Added a little note to the crag description so hopefully it'll still show up in gogole search if people look for the old name.
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I have requested some details to be updated for Polly's Peril (S 4a) at Westcombe Beach and have not heard anything back. I also messaged the mod via ukc message but no luck. What would the best course of action be? I would happily help moderate the crag if that is useful?
I've made you a second mod on that crag so you can update the details yourself.
Perfect. Thanks, Remus!
Tonfedd has two moderators but there's a heap of stuff there that hasn't been confirmed and sorted in years. Happy to do a job on it.
Can someone please add @nickcanute (https://www.ukclimbing.com/user/profile.php?id=102078) as secondary moderator for Moss Rake (https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/moss_rake-26584/#overview). I have somehow ended up as primary and secondary moderator which seems a bit overkill!
Thanks for the offer Andy. Usually I try and avoid swapping out mods without explicitly asking them as it's caused confusion in the past, but it obviously hasn't had a lot of attention so I've tagged you in.
> Can someone please add @nickcanute (https://www.ukclimbing.com/user/profile.php?id=102078) as secondary moderator for Moss Rake (https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/moss_rake-26584/#overview). I have somehow ended up as primary and secondary moderator which seems a bit overkill!
Sorted
The problems Seams thin (f6C+) and Body boogie (f5) should be moved to Dinas Mot.
Crag Requested
Second Moderator
Hound Tor
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/hound_tor_devon-224/
Could you please add me as a second moderator for Ratho Quarry?
There is some work needing done to get the routes in line with the most recent SMC guidebook release.
Thanks!
You might want to sort out Ranochan for Ali and James, it’s a bit of a mess.
In my opinion both crags should be combined.
Replace ‘Routes added from Rockfax’ and Rannochan Wall Routes’ with 'Ranochan West’.
Ranochan West left to right.
White Line Arete
White Lines
The Seat
Blue Velvet 8m 6c Left of bolts (same as Bolt Line 1).
Slip Sliding Away 8m 7b ** right of bolts (same as Bolt Line 1).
Lakey Hill (same as Bolted Line 2)
Niagara (same as Bolted Line 3 (6b+?)).
Wilderness of Mirrors (in twice).
Zambezi
Pinch Beck (in twice).
Clover Field (in twice).
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/ranochan_wall-18756/#overview
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/ranochan_west-31285/#overview
> The problems Seams thin (f6C+) and Body boogie (f5) should be moved to Dinas Mot.
Also Ragged Wall (VD), Jonah (VS) and Claude (HS) should be moved to Clogwyn Mawr Cwm Cerwyn.
> The problems Seams thin (f6C+) and Body boogie (f5) should be moved to Dinas Mot.
Sorted
> Crag Requested
> Second Moderator
> Hound Tor
No probs, added you as second mod.
> Could you please add me as a second moderator for Ratho Quarry?
> There is some work needing done to get the routes in line with the most recent SMC guidebook release.
> Thanks!
No probs, added you as second mod.
> Also Ragged Wall (VD), Jonah (VS) and Claude (HS) should be moved to Clogwyn Mawr Cwm Cerwyn.
Sorted
Crag requested Eaves Top Quarries as a second moderator
> You might want to sort out Ranochan for Ali and James, it’s a bit of a mess.
> In my opinion both crags should be combined.
> Replace ‘Routes added from Rockfax’ and Rannochan Wall Routes’ with 'Ranochan West’.
> Ranochan West left to right.
> White Line Arete
> White Lines
> The Seat
> Blue Velvet 8m 6c Left of bolts (same as Bolt Line 1).
> Slip Sliding Away 8m 7b ** right of bolts (same as Bolt Line 1).
> Lakey Hill (same as Bolted Line 2)
> Niagara (same as Bolted Line 3 (6b+?)).
> Wilderness of Mirrors (in twice).
> Zambezi
> Pinch Beck (in twice).
> Clover Field (in twice).
If I make you a mod on on of those crags and merge them together would you be ok sorting the individual routes?
> If I make you a mod on on of those crags and merge them together would you be ok sorting the individual routes?
Ok, I'll tidy it up then Ali and James can have it back.
Thanks
I've deleted Ranochan West and moved the routes that were listed there to Ranochan Wall. I've added you as second mod on Ranochan Wall.
I've made some changes, you might want to put James back as moderator.
Thanks, looking good! I've made James a mod again.
Can you make me 2nd mod for Rivelin Edge would be good to update the climbing in the formally banned sector with descriptions
Not really a moderation issue, but can a new UIAA grade of 9+/10- be added to the dropdown list? All recent/new 8as in the Frankenjura are given this grade with 9+ being reserved for 7c+ and 10- for 8a+. A bit like V8+.
No probs, added you as second mod.
> Not really a moderation issue, but can a new UIAA grade of 9+/10- be added to the dropdown list? All recent/new 8as in the Frankenjura are given this grade with 9+ being reserved for 7c+ and 10- for 8a+. A bit like V8+.
One for the UKC bods so I've passed it on to Paul.
> No probs, added you as second mod.
thanks,
who accepts topo you submit? I added one to Dimmings Dale yesterday and just added one for one of the former banned buttress at Rivelin and assumed as a crag moderator it would something I would accept but either this function no longer works or i don't have the power to do.
UKC big dawgs I assume, I haven't seen a queue for accepting new topos anywhere before. I could have just missed it though.
Thanks for highlighting this, that's sorted Rupert.
I've approved those Graeme. We need to work on the moderation for them as it's currently just UKC staff. It will be quicker to get them approved in the future.
Looks like you're all sorted Dave?
Looks like was missed out when the big crag merger was done at Val di Mello. Should be added along with the rest.
Thanks, I've moved the routes across to Val di Mello, can you put them in the right spot? Thanks
Could you kindly remove Arete Ryan from;
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/aiguille_du_plan-3019/arete_ryanea...
and merge ascents and ticklists into;
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/aiguille_du_plan-3019/arete_ryanea...
However best not to merge the two Aiguille du Plan crags, as other routes on the former crag start on the (north) Plan side of the ridge, whereas Arete Ryan starts on the (south) Envers side, so is best merged into the latter Envers crag. Hope that makes sense. Cheers.
I moderate a couple of large crags where there are seasonal access restrictions only on certain sectors. What I've done so far is with these is to mention them in Access Advice for the crag as a whole, then mention them again in the sector descriptions.
Is this ok? Would it make sense to have Access Advice at sector level?
> I moderate a couple of large crags where there are seasonal access restrictions only on certain sectors. What I've done so far is with these is to mention them in Access Advice for the crag as a whole, then mention them again in the sector descriptions.
> Is this ok? Would it make sense to have Access Advice at sector level?
I think your approach works. It would be useful to see the crag as a whole, but depending on the size of the crag the other option would be to split it up in to smaller crags so access details for each are more clearly defined. There's pros and cons to this though: for example, if the crags all share the same approach then you'd have to copy and paste the same info across the separate crags.
Can I be added as mod for Saddle Tor please? https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/saddle_tor-1141/
There are already two mods but I think Jack_F might not be that active any more so was hoping I could be swapped out. I emailed him 2 weeks ago to ask if he minded swapping out for me but didn't hear anything back.
Thanks,
Dale
Can I get some help with Cabrerizo (Albarracin) https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/cabrerizo-31088/ :
There are some climbs there that belong to different crags. I've created buttresses named appropriately and here are the crags they should be at:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_colina-31555/
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/mezquita-31100/
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_senda-31554/
Thanks!
Dale
> Can I get some help with Cabrerizo (Albarracin) https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/cabrerizo-31088/ :
> There are some climbs there that belong to different crags. I've created buttresses named appropriately and here are the crags they should be at:
> Thanks!
> Dale
I've moved all these across for you.
Having some permissions issues with the mod tools, will make you a mod as soon as I've got access.
> Can I be added as mod for Saddle Tor please? https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/saddle_tor-1141/
> There are already two mods but I think Jack_F might not be that active any more so was hoping I could be swapped out. I emailed him 2 weeks ago to ask if he minded swapping out for me but didn't hear anything back.
> Thanks,
> Dale
Back in on the admin tools and made you a mod here. Funnily enough Jack is a mate of mine, he'll be a bit bitter you're suggesting he's not very active any more
The general consensus for the grade of Shapeshifter (VII 7) is that it is closer to VI/VII 7/8. Could the grade be changed in the route description? It is a good climb so would be a shame if the grade given were deterring people from enjoying it.
No probs, I've changed it to VII 7 as there isn't an option for split grades.
Hey Remus, please could I be added as a crag moderator to La Mojarra? Thanks and Merry Christmas 🎄
Whenever I add a missing crag I tick I'll moderate, but it doesn't work for me and I have to do it again once it appears.
Hey Charlie, hope you guys are having a good trip! Can you check in with the existing mods to see if one of them is happy to swap? If they don't get back to you I'll swap you out anyway but worth checking in.
Hi! Noticed that No match for climb id:270235 at Sheeps Tor was mistakenly added, when it should be Ivy Bend (VD) at Leather Tor (Very closed Dartmoor Tors) Any chance the ticks could be transferred over to Leather Tor and the Sheeps Tor entry deleted?
Thanks
Crag Requested: Drws y Coed Pop Block.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/drws_y_coed_pop_block-21185/#maps
I don't live locally but grew up there an visit very regularly. Have added a number of problems and know what and where the other problems added in the area are.
> Hi! Noticed that No match for climb id:270235 at Sheeps Tor was mistakenly added, when it should be Ivy Bend (VD) at Leather Tor (Very closed Dartmoor Tors) Any chance the ticks could be transferred over to Leather Tor and the Sheeps Tor entry deleted?
> Thanks
Sorted
This'll be one for the ukc big dogs, could you drop them an email here https://www.ukclimbing.com/general/email.php
Looks like there's a couple of mods on the crag already, could you drop them an email and see if they're happy to swap? If you don't get a reply I'll swap you in for one of them, but worth checking in to see if they're still active.
Sure, I'll ask Eliot, I know him.
Got the all clear from Eliot on taking over on Pop Block area
Thanks for checking, I've swapped you in.
Hey Remus, really enjoying Colombia so far! Tim Lehhman happy to swap with me thanks!
Mega! I've swapped you out for Tim.
Ta!
Geyikbayiri - Upper Tier https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/geyikbayiri_-_upper_tier-3451/
Out here in Geyikbayiri long term been here for a month and plan to be around for a lot of the year - lots of new sectors opened, new routes added to existing ones, some of them are in the brand new guide, some not but all really good quality. Started adding them to the database but none have been approved yet, sent an email to both moderators last week but no reply. Happy to get everything up to date and tidied up if I can get added as a moderator for this area.
I've added you. I hope you're having an amazing time there. It's one of the few Sport Climbing venues I'd love to go back to.
Thanks for adding me as a moderator for Trebanog. I've been going through and tidying a few things up that haven't been updated in the last few years and following some new routes being bolted at the crag in the last couple of months.
There's a few changes though that I can't/unsure of how to make. Happy to put this in an email if that's the preferred route;
- Can the logs from No match for climb id:72669 be merged into this one Simon's Crack (S) I think at some point the first route has been created as a duplicate of the second.
- Unnamed #2 (VS 4c) This route should be named "Unnamed #2"
- Ethanol (6c) Isn't Blagdon, it should be named "Ethanol" as per the route it's a retrobolted version of. As such Ethanol Direct Finish (6c+) should be named "Ethanol Direct Finish". I haven't made these changes since the routes are in the rockfax database
- Blagdon (VS 4c) should actually be called "Blagdon". P Hamer and R Smith were the first ascensionist's
The other routes not yet confirmed at the crag, I need to go back up and climb, I climbed a few of the newer routes on Saturday but not all.
Thanks for sorting the crag out, good work. I've gone through and made those changes for you.
Thanks for making those changes, just spotted one more that's required.
Now the names have been corrected the Rockfax route description for Ethanol Direct Finish (6c+) needs to updated with "Blagdon" corrected to "Ethanol".
Can you add me as mod for Shielhill Cave and correct the name to “Shielhill Cave”. I made an i before e error when I inputted the crag name, sorry.
> Can you add me as mod for Shielhill Cave and correct the name to “Shielhill Cave”. I made an i before e error when I inputted the crag name, sorry.
Looks like this is sorted?
You'll need to contact Rockfax to get that description updated. There's a little button you can press on the climb edit page that lets you report a discrepancy directly.
Thanks. Yeah, I figured you may not be able to fix the spelling. After I posted I found the UKC contact page and it is all sorted now.
Someone's added some problems to Cabrerizo: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/cabrerizo-31088/
which should be at Mezquita: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/mezquita-31100/
(easily done, I think some old guidebooks have them together or at least split differently). I've created a buttress at Cabrerizo to move over, could you transfer it across please?
Thanks!
Good spot, I've just moved those over to Mezquita for you.
Thanks Remus!
Hi. I've added myself as a second mod to Cairn Gorm - Creagan Cha-no and tidied it up some.
But could you please rename the crag to "Creagan Cha-no" instead? That's how all climbers know it and how it is in the guidebooks. (Sron a Cha-no is the name of the big spur feature that the crag is on the side of.)
Thanks.
Thanks for your work on the crag.
Changed the name for you, but just realised I'm not quite sure whether you still wanted the 'Carin Gorm' in there? Let me know if not and I'll change it to just 'Creagan Cha-no'.
Thanks remus. No mate, that’s great. (I did actually mean minus the ‘Cairn gorm’ bit when I asked but just had a look and there’s the Cairn gorm prefix for the northern corrie crags so it’s consistent to leave it as you’ve done it. Cheers!)
While the Cairn Gorm prefix on the northern corries is arguably OK as they are referred to as 'the northern corries of Cairn Gorm' (though Cha-no isn't), if you have the facility to do so then it would make sense to remove the Broad Cairn prefix from Creag an Dubh-loch.
No one has ever referred to that crag as Broad Cairn. It's exactly like having Cloggy titled Snowdon - Clogwyn Du'r Arddu. Most crags don't have the hill that they're on included in the name unless that's also the name by which the crag is known, so why these?
Good shout Andy, I've removed 'Broad Cairn' from the crag name.
I suspect it was in there because there was a summit called 'Broad Cairn' that was lumped in there alongside the routes, I've moved that over to the actual summit and merged those ticks in to the existing logbook entry for Broad Cairn summit https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/broad_cairn-14079/
Hi Remus,
On this entry https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/beinn_alligin_-_sgurr_mor-13023/be...
...in the route name I presume it must be an autocorrect typo as Beinn Alligin has become "Being Alligin", unless it's some very subtle joke going over my head! The joke thing seems unlikely for such a classic winter ridge traverse! Cheers.
Albarracín suggestion:
Please can La Fuente Este: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_fuente_este-31095/
Be merged into La Fuente: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_fuente_albarracin-31096/
And Valle de la Madera be moved to its own crag page?
Cheers!
> Albarracín suggestion:
> Please can La Fuente Este: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_fuente_este-31095/
> Be merged into La Fuente: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_fuente_albarracin-31096/
> And Valle de la Madera be moved to its own crag page?
> Cheers!
Im away at the mo but will do this when Im back in a couple of weeks if no one else gets to it first.
Request to moderate L’Estartit, Spain. No current moderators and needs the climbs re-organising.
Thanks
Thanks for offering to moderate! As there's no current mods you can make yourself a mod by going to the bottom of the page and clicking the button that says 'volunteer to moderate'.
Hi,
Thanks for the response. I have clicked this button several times and it mentions waiting a couple of days for an email.
I’m still yet to hear anything, any idea what’s going on then?
Thanks,
Dustin
Hi there, I would love to be a moderator for the "Thaurac" crag in the south of France if possible. There are a lot of newly developed buttresses that haven't been added! Many thanks
> Albarracín suggestion:
> Please can La Fuente Este: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_fuente_este-31095/
> Be merged into La Fuente: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/la_fuente_albarracin-31096/
> And Valle de la Madera be moved to its own crag page?
> Cheers!
I've moved the climbs from La Fuente Este to La Fuente. Can you make a new crag for Valle de la Madera and I'll move the climbs across to the new page for you.
Having a bit of trouble deleting the old Fuente Este crag but dropped a message to the higher powers.
> Hi there, I would love to be a moderator for the "Thaurac" crag in the south of France if possible. There are a lot of newly developed buttresses that haven't been added! Many thanks
You should be able to make yourself a moderator if you go to the bottom of the crag page and press the button in the blue box.
Thanks Remus. I've created the new crag page here: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/valle_de_la_madera-31875/
> Thanks Remus. I've created the new crag page here: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/valle_de_la_madera-31875/
Thanks, I've moved all relevant the climbs across.
Can Upper Polldubh be made into a separate crag to Polldubh Crags, Glen Nevis?
This comprises the buttresses: Saddle Crag, Rounded Crag, Gully Crag, Boulder Buttress and Twin Buttress
Note, don't confuse Upper Polldubh with Polldubh Upper Tier (I know right, who thought that was a good idea?)
They are all listed in order with map pins towards the end of Polldubh.
Also, something I noticed in the process of writing that post - some buttresses within a crag appear when you type them into the 'Insert crag link...' box, and some do not. It seems a bit random which ones do and which ones don't. It found Saddle Crag, Rounded Crag and Gully Crag, but not Upper Polldubh, Boulder Buttress or Twin Buttress.
But when the post is published it doesn't show the ones that were found as buttresses, it just shows multiple links to the overall crag (this is why the above post was edited).
A wee thing to fix perhaps?
> Can Upper Polldubh be made into a separate crag to Polldubh Crags, Glen Nevis?
> This comprises the buttresses: Saddle Crag, Rounded Crag, Gully Crag, Boulder Buttress and Twin Buttress
> Note, don't confuse Upper Polldubh with Polldubh Upper Tier (I know right, who thought that was a good idea?)
> They are all listed in order with map pins towards the end of Polldubh.
Sounds sensible. Can you create a new empty crag? I'll then move the relevant buttresses and climbs over.
Thanks, I've moved the routes across. I tried to move the buttresses across but it looks like something went wrong and they're in the wrong place (if you go to the crag moderation page you can see them at the end of the routes list). I've not got a guide to hand so not sure where the buttresses should go, could you pop them in the right spot when you have a sec?
Fixed, thanks Remus.
Hi remus,
Please can I be added as a moderator for Black Wars crag? I have been developing a new bouldering sector.
Thanks
Gallt yr Ogof Boulders should be made plural, as there is more than one.
Please delete the empty crag. Its also in the Grange campsite! - https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/high_spy_653m-17040
The correct entry is (I assume) at High Spy
Gogarth North Stack and Main Cliff already has two moderators, but there are things that have been out of order or not updated on there for years, which seems a bit improper for one of our best cliffs. I'm happy to do some moderating in place of Dr Evil, I'm sure he won't mind.
Hi, could the name of Glenfinnan Lodge Crags (Choire Charnaig) be changed to Glenfinnan Lodge Crags. SMC thought it a better name so got changed in the new routes database. Thanks
> Gallt yr Ogof Boulders should be made plural, as there is more than one.
Done. Also swapped you Dr Evil out for you as second mod on gogarth main cliff.
> Hi, could the name of Glenfinnan Lodge Crags (Choire Charnaig) be changed to Glenfinnan Lodge Crags. SMC thought it a better name so got changed in the new routes database. Thanks
Sorted. I've put the old name in brackets to hopefully help with people searching for it using both names.
> Please delete the empty crag. Its also in the Grange campsite! - https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/high_spy_653m-17040
> The correct entry is (I assume) at High Spy
Sorted
Is it possible to add the grade 9+/10- to the UIAA grades dropdown list? Almost all 8as in the frankenjura are now given this grade and having to choose between 10- (8a+) and 9+ (7c+) when logging new routes seems daft when it's a widely used convention. I know you could select the french grade instead, but most moderators that are filling in whole crags just look at the guidebook grade then randomly opt for either 10- or 9+ when they see 9+/10-.
This isn't something I'd be able to do but I've dropped an email to Paul at UKC so he's aware. Not sure of the practicalities of implementing it, but sounds like a sensible suggestion.
Crag requested - Struie
Happy to be joint moderator. I live locally and know the main protagonist uncovering new routes.
Please can you move the Higher Tor buttress here: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/irish_mans_wall-1530/ to the Higher Tor crag page https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/higher_tor-16953/
Maybe also move the Pil Tor Buttress here: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/top_tor_and_pil_tor-1524/ to it's own page here https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/pil_tor-20492/
Thanks!
It should be possible to make yourself second mod for that crag using the button in the blue box at the bottom of the page. Let me know if you have issues and I can add you manually.
Done and done, I've also tweaked the name from 'Top Tor and Pil Tor' to 'Top Tor' to avoid confusion with the new crag.
Thanks, this has been pointed out to me. Added myself in and all sorted.
Harbour Wall, Newtonhill and Back Door are two faces of the same sea cliff I think it would make more sense if they were merged as you abseil down one to get to the other
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/backdoor_wall_newtonhill-1888/
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/harbour_wall_newtonhill-1922/
Request Meds Cave in the Cheddar area
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/meds_cave-24170/
as I move to Cheddar two days from now. I suggest replacing josh_willson12345 as co-moderator as he doesn't appear to be local any more. I emailed him suggesting I take over but didn't hear back.
Thanks
recently climbed quite a few of the not updated routes at BB Zawn in particular at Penally East can you swap me in and I'll update them.
I've swapped you in for dannyboy, can you let me know when you're done and I'll swap him back in again.
> Request Meds Cave in the Cheddar area
> as I move to Cheddar two days from now. I suggest replacing josh_willson12345 as co-moderator as he doesn't appear to be local any more. I emailed him suggesting I take over but didn't hear back.
> Thanks
Thanks for attempting to email josh_willson12345, I've swapped you in.
> Harbour Wall, Newtonhill and Back Door are two faces of the same sea cliff I think it would make more sense if they were merged as you abseil down one to get to the other
Which crag should updated and which deleted do you think?
Sure will do
Back Door Wall is more complete with the approach details etc
Harbour Wall is the main wall so if you can only keep one name it should be Harbour Wall but using all the approaches as for Back Door Wall.
Thanks
> I've swapped you in for dannyboy, can you let me know when you're done and I'll swap him back in again.
I've sorted the ones I know and added a topo (awaiting moderation) which might be useful to some, so can swap me out. Thanks
Clogwyn y Tarw (The Gribin Facet) is a mess - if I replace one of the existing moderators (perhaps LO) I can sort it out.
Trwyn y Gorlech (Nant Gwrtheyrn) should be renamed Trwyn y Gorlech (Nant Gwrtheyrn) as that's the name given in the new Pen Llŷn guidebook.
Done and done.
Would it be possible to add a notification bubble thing to the logbook menu to highlight that you have moderator updates waiting? I check UKC much more frequently than my emails, so it'd be easier to keep on top of.
(shoddy example attached)
Hi Remus
Newtonhill is in three sections left to right;
Newtonhill Cave
Harbour Wall
Back Door Wall
I’ve updated the approach details for Back Door Wall already so keep all that, once they’re merged I can tweak the Cave approach which is actually just across the beach.
The Rockfax entry for Grande Plage at Carn Barra is linked to the wrong entry.
It is linked to Grande Plage (pre-rockfall) (E5 6b) and displayed as E5 6b, but pre-rockfall the route was E3 6a.
It should be linked to Grande Plage (post-rockfall) (E4 6a), the grade of which now varies between E4 and E5 depending whether the boulder moves again.
Also it's Grande not Grand (which is how it appears on the app), plage is feminine.
> Hi Remus
> Newtonhill is in three sections left to right;
> Newtonhill Cave
> Harbour Wall
> Back Door Wall
> I’ve updated the approach details for Back Door Wall already so keep all that, once they’re merged I can tweak the Cave approach which is actually just across the beach.
Sorry if it's a pain, but I've merged everything in to https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/harbour_wall_newtonhill-1922/ because it was linked with rockfax, so didnt want to mess anything up there by deleting the crag.
I've copied the approach description over and tweaked some of the buttress names to reduce duplication.
I've left the old crag (https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/backdoor_wall_newtonhill-1888/) around in case there's something else you need to copy across. Let me know when you're done and I'll delete the old crag.
It's not massively important, but would it be easy/possible to add + grades for aid climbs? Currently it's not possible to have anything graded A1+, A2+, etc.
That’s excellent, thanks. You can delete the obsolete Back Door Wall now. Cheers
May I request to swap for pebblespanker at Creag na h-Eighe? I'm sure he's not been active for a number of years and there's some stuff to be updated at the crag that keeps getting ignored.
Cheers
No probs, swapped you in.
I've entered all the existing and new route development for Trwyn Bychestyn area, however there are a couple of existing crags on the database that should have the routes moved from those and consolidated under Trwyn Bychestyn and the separate buttresses within. Getting on top of this now should hopefully avoid any further entries that could be confusing to work out what's what.
Could you please move the routes from No match for crag id:31985 and No match for crag id:31979 to Trwyn Bychestyn. These crags can then be deleted.
I can then place them in the appropriate buttress.
Many Thanks,
Emyr
No probs, just done that for you.
Ethical dilemma - route name.
I'm currently tidying up Konstein - a big crag in Germany for which I'm moderator.
There's a route name (in German) dating from back whenever, that is an absolutely unacceptable racial insult that we'd certainly never want to see published on this site in English. Germany is, sadly, somewhat behind English speaking countries in cleaning this sort of thing up, and the offensive name is still the name published in the 2017 guidebook that I'm working from.
What to do?
Jollies Route (HVD) had it's name changed recently, but can still be found by it's previous name in the current definitive guide.
Have a similar problem here: Ingenmannsland / i negerens vold (n7-)
Fortunately the route name has largely been accepted as changed but for a long time I have just acknowledged in the description as not very pc. I keep both in the logbooks for completeness.
The name has fortunately also been partially scrubbed from the base of the climb.
A new guide for our area is on the way and I’ll see how they handle it there, especially whether they even mention the old name or not.
When I climbed that back in 2010 there was some discussion about whether the name was acceptable back then, nice to see its been amended.
One thing that strikes me (not sure how true this is) but it only ever seems to be one or to route names that are way out of character for their crag. At least in Alans case there doesn't appear to be any other routes that are so offensive in name (and the name is pretty appalling).
Thanks Mark & Gareth for the feedback.
I'm thinking I'll leave it as it is for now with a comment in the description, and hope it's changed in the 2023 guidebook that I haven't bought yet. Although I'm not holding my breath, since as I mentioned the Germans are a bit behind on cleaning this sort of thing up.
> Sport: UIAA XI+/X- is already in the grade list.
> Am I missing something?
I realised I already asked you to do this back in October last year (see earlier up the thread), which is when the option was added. Apologies.
May I replace JamieSparkes in Balgone Heughs? I'll then pass the Lead mod to Mr. Kieran, and stay as second. Cheers
No probs, swapped you in for Jamie.
Crag Requested: Gwylwyr Quarry
The crag is in a desperate need of an update following the release of the new guidebook and further development. For example, a listed VS is now considered a bold E1.
Could I please be placed as a moderator in place of Christoph Owen? I have e-mailed him requesting this change but not had any response and his profile suggests he may not have been active on this site for quite a while.
Emyr
Sorted. Thanks for trying to contact the existing mods first.
Is there a UKH Moderator's thread?
I've tried searching the forums, but haven't seen any discussion.
1) How does the Type of Hill search work? I can't see any option to set Type of Hill on the crag/climb update pages.
2) Has there been any consideration for adding saddles and viewpoints alongside summits?
Thank you
Can I be installed to do a wee bit of fixing on Tryfan?
I'm not bothered about staying on as moderator, but there have been duplicates and unchecked submissions on there for quite a long time.
I've swapped you in in place of https://www.ukclimbing.com/user/profile.php?id=136134 Let me know when you're done and I'll swap them back in.
Sorted. The very last climb should be moved to Creigiau'r Dena
Good work, cheers Andy. I've swapped the previous mod back in and moved that rogue climb across to https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/creigiaur_dena-12248
Hi Remus can you swap me out for Dan Arkle on Mount Famine I've added a load of stuff that needs neatening up, preferably before I forget.
Happy to swap back after, cheers.
Also is there a way to label a crag entry as buildering/man-made rather than an actual crag?
Ideally so it shows up as a different colour in the crag map and maybe hideable as a default when searching.
No probs, just swapped you in. Let me know when you're done and I'll put Dan back on.
Hi Remus - I added a new crag today: Hiisikallio although I realize now I was confused, or tried to be too clever with my Finnish grammar, and the cliff's name in 27crags - the only topo I think - is "Hiisikallio". I'm moderating it, but I don't think I can update the crag name. If you could that would be great! Kiitos*!
*Finnish for thank you.
> I added a new crag today
Congratulations! I'm currently looking for - and failing to find - where & how to do that.
(Latsch in Südtirol - definitely not currently in, I've use both name and map search. Quite a major crag by local standards and - more importantly! - scene of one of my long term projects)
> Congratulations! I'm currently looking for - and failing to find - where & how to do that.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/rock_talk/how_to_add_crag-745990
Qu: when a UKC topo is created using the available online tool, who moderates the topo before it goes public? I just created a topo this way for a crag I moderate but it says the topo is "currently awaiting moderation". Does someone in the backrooms of UKC Towers do the moderation for these or is it, as I'd presumed, one of the crag moderators?
> Does someone in the backrooms of UKC Towers do the moderation for these
Fairly sure this is how it works, I've never seen any tools for crag moderators to approve topos.
No worries, I'll hang fire till it appears, thanks.
Can take a good few days in my experience but unlikely as much as a week.
Edit: Further revisions and edits to the topo will going live straight away.
Understood, thanks.
Thanks, deleted the dupe crag.
Crag requested: Lumbutts Quarry
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/lumbutts_quarry-1419/
Phil Oldham is one of them who I know but the other guy hasn't replied to emails in a while.
np, swapped you in for the the chap who didnt get back to you on email https://www.ukclimbing.com/user/profile.php?id=38336
I'm in the process of putting some 'new' crags on the UKC logbooks but I'm just not getting a 'pin' I can use to indicate location. I'm on my phone most of the time but have also tried a linked laptop. Is it just me?
I can sort of work round by using Google maps on my phone to give me lat and long which I can then input but it's a faff.
Crag Request
Holmfirth Cliff could do with a little bit of attention. Could I get added please.
It would make sense to merge Findon Ness and Findon Ness South as they are adjacent to each other
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/findon_ness_the_grey_wall-9023/#th...
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/findon_ness_south-9022/#overview
> Crag Request
> Holmfirth Cliff could do with a little bit of attention. Could I get added please.
No probs, I've swapped you in for Daimon who's part of rockfax so I assume he'll have global mod permissions anyway.
Any opinion on which is the better crag to keep and which one to delete after the merge? i.e. does one have better approach info?
Neither has any approach info but I can add something after they are merged. Ideally just called Findon Ness, with three buttresses Kay Hole, Grey Wall and Findon Ness South.
I've moved all the routes over to https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/findon_ness_the_grey_wall-9023/
Just waiting on some permissions debugging to tweak the crag name and delete the other crag.
Thanks. Will you be able to remove (Grey Wall) from the crag name? Once they are finally merged I’ll add some more details.
Suggested reshuffle of crags: The Little Orme is a bit random, as it includes most of the crags on The Little Orme, but not all.
The Diamond and Craig y Don are two of those that have separate entries, but Craig y Don Lower is included in The Diamond instead of Craig y Don. There is also the newly added , which should definitely be assimilated with one or the other, as the leftmost climb is literally the same thing as the downclimb for the DWS routes at Craig y Don Lower.
I would suggest moving the climbs from Craig y Don Lower from the Diamond to Craig y Don, and putting Don Side Beach in there as well. The route Small Town Girl (6c S0) which is unchecked at the bottom of The Diamond should also go to Craig y Don.
Does that make sense?
There are also two routes listed at the end of Craig y Don which should go to Manor Crag.
Could you please amalgamate into Trwyn yr Wylfa Area.
There is only a single DWS route in the Pistyll Cim crag entry for a buttress that already exists under Trwyn yr Wylfa, so would make more sense for this route to be placed there under that buttress heading. could then be deleted.
Many thanks.
The entries for and Yr Eifl (Trwyn y Gorlech) are a bit of a duplicated mess. I can only assume that Joe-24 has created the entry for Yr Eifl but has duplicated many of the routes already in Trwyn Y Gorlech.
Seeing as the entries in Yr Eifl is much more complete (as per new guide) could the duplicate routes in Trwyn y Gorlech be moved across merging the logs? East Face has no logs so can be deleted (Named East Face Original in Yr Eifl). Surprisingly the only route missing from Yr Eifl is the (relatively) popular Avernus. This can be moved across as well please.
Should probably rename the crag to Yr Eifl (Trwyn y Gorlech) as it's probably referenced in select guidebooks as Trwyn Y Gorlech due to Avernus.
Many thanks.
I'm on a roll! Final one I promise.
Could the buttress Craig Ddu under Trwyn y Gorlech (Nant Gwrtheyrn) be deleted as there is a completely separate Crag entry for this (rightly as it is separate) under Craig Ddu (Lleyn).
The only entry/log that needs merging is for Abigail.
Many thanks.
There's moved
Sorted: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/findon_ness-9023/
That's merged into https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/yr_eifl_trwyn_y_gorlech-9472/ if you wouldn't mind sorted the duplicates.
Thanks!
That's sorted.
I think my earlier request has been missed, which was basically to move all the routes from Small Town Girl downwards at The Diamond, plus the whole of , to Craig y Don.
Will do and many thanks for sorting out all my requests.
Sorted that too Andy
Can someone please sort out the names and descriptions to Rustic Wall & Rustic Wall Direct /Video Kills @ Split Rock (Milton Hill Quarry) as the names and descriptions are all messed up.
The Rockfax South West Climbs 2022 guide and app use 'Rustic Wall Direct', the Medips guide 2023 uses 'Video Kills' and UKC database uses 'Rustic Wall' for the same direct version of the route but the UKC descriptions being different and the Medips guide also describing the original version 'Rustic Wall'
Rustic Wall is the original route which traversed off right - the less classic version
Video Kills is the name given to the direct variation or the same as Rustic Wall Direct.
i suggest the RF App links to a climb called 'Rustic Wall Direct (Video Kills)' in the datebase and the other ukc entry is called 'Rustic wall (original)' with the correct descriptions are given to each climb in both the RF and UKC descriptions
Forgot to say I'm happy to do this if added as a temporary modirater
Thanks, you can probably delete this one now
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/findon_ness_south-9022/
Farrletter Crag and Wee Farrletter are slightly misspelled, it should be Farrletter.
I think the only error is the RF description, the names and Logbook descriptions look ok. Mendip Outcrops is almost definitely going to be correct.
I started tidying up Saderness but I discovered that there are multiple entries for some routes…
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/sadernes
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/sadernes_-_riera_descales-22865/
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/sadernes_-_riera_de_sant_aniol-210...
Probably best to merge everything to Sadernes. I can tidy it up once everything is in one place.
Hi there, I don't mod these crags but hopefully the mods can sort out post merge ...
Gammos is really a sector on Arginonta Valley The sector is actually White Spirit but its not on the log books yet.
Could it be merged in please, I think the spelling is wrong on one of the entries.
Thanks
Mike, for info there are 3 sectors there.
White Spirit, Ruby, and Gamos.
Don’t confuse the mods too much lol
I’m trying to get them into I the database, but have limited info on Gamos and none for WS. Ruby is in!
Paul, I emailed the mods (forgot about the threads) re kalymnos.
Will you let me know if you need any more info or when it’s done??
Ta
Mike.
Hi Mike, thanks for your efforts keeping up with the bolting.
i guess if that duplicate crag can go it would work.
Thanks
Thanks for putting the White Spirit routes in. Where did you get the names from? Are they on the wall now? Hoping to pop there this afternoon (30/9) to climb and check out the WS sector. Feel free to message me directly off thread.
Mike.
Pm sent!
> I think the only error is the RF description, the names and Logbook descriptions look ok. Mendip Outcrops is almost definitely going to be correct.
Yes the UKC descriptions are correct but that the app links "Rustic Wall direct" (Video kills) to the indirect version "Rustic wall" with its Rockfax description there which contradicts with the UKC description underneath.
Please can someone make it so that I can edit the BMC: On Peak Rock Esoterica Ticklist?
Its missing a couple of most excellent (kind of) routes and I can't update it.
Sorry, I missed this. You're added: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/ticklists/bmc_on-peak_rock_esoterica-10
Can I replace Luke Owens as moderator for Plas y Brenin Boulder? He doesn't seem to have been active as a moderator for a number of years.
Also can the crag title be plural, as there are several boulders in the area?
Can I do a wee bump for the above please Paul? ^
Hi Andy, sorry for the late reply. I've sorted that.
Thanks. Another one: Beddgelert Forest
That's sorted.
Could you please integrate https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/sperlonga-29580/ 2 as a sector with the name Pilastro Ponente Inferiore into Monte Vanellamare crag https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/monte_vanellamare-20686/ 1?
It is handled as such in the guidebooks ... and is part of the same mountain.
Thanks in advance, Thomas
Could you change 'Loja Malaga...Diedro' to 'Loja North' please.
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/loja_malaga__sector_tajo_del_diedr...
That's sorted.
That's done.
Can I have temp moderation access to Murla in Costa Blanca xalo valley.
There's a ton of new routes, 3 new sectors many of which I've added, be easier if i could just sort them and then back off again.
Not sure how current moderators would feel , Chris crags and dannyboy83 , but if they are ij with it....
I've just added a new project route Tranquility Base (6c+) to The Spot and it comes up in the overview listing correctly. But when you click on adjacent routes and then use the left < / right > arrows to move to adjacent routes, the new project route sometimes disappears. It generally happens when you bump to the route to the left.
Panic over, it now seems to be working fine. Maybe just a cache issue at my end.
Bump,
I realise this is a RF crag so let me know if not ok and I'll just add the routes I do and let current mods sort it when over here. I'm here for 3 more weeks
I've added you as a moderator for Murla. No problem doing some tidy up to that crag.
Thanks I've added and moved stuff about and added some sectors being developed by Brits. RH,JP, BH and others but don't know what they want to call the sectors they have created, and a link to their bolt fund would be good if anyone has such a thing or can find our and let me know.
Can I be added as a mod to Caley please Remus? Doesn't need to be long term but the Dogside Boulder is a complete mess and needs a sort out.
I've added you. Thanks for the help with the database.
Cheers Paul - the whole crag needs a sort out. UKC user Vybz lives round the corner and knows the crag intimately- can you pass my position on to him please? Or feel free to leave us both on. Cheers!
Edit: spidermonkey09 beat me to it.
But what he said
I've added you too 👍
I've just taken on moderating Cabezon d'Oro near Alicante. Within that page there is a section for Tocayo but these climbs are also listed under Busot (which is the logical place for them to be).
I wanted to remove these duplicated climbs from the Cabezon d'Oro section but if I were to do this, people would lose these ticks from their logbooks. Is there a way to transfer the ticks to a climb that is listed under a different crag (I can see that it can be done for a climb listed twice at the same crag but can't find a way of doing it if the crags themselves are listed in two different locations)?
For anyone else reading Tom's message above. The solution is to move the affected climbs to their own buttress under the source crag. Then get in touch with Logbooks using the Contact Us at the bottom of the page. A global moderator can then move that buttress to the crag they should be at and delete/merge the duplicate climbs like normal. That preserves the existing logbook ticks.
It's all been sorted.
Nothing major but to tidy things up - Could this crag ( Gleann Beag Boulders ) be moved to be combined with the main crag at Glenbeg ?
It doesn't make sense to have two crag entries for it. I don't mind if the gaelic name or the anglicised version is used. (The SMC guidebook uses the latter).
I cleaned a small butress and climbed some problems at Ravelston Quarry (Edinburgh).
Harry Holmes has not been actif since 2015 and does not reply to my emails.
Happy to add them myself
Rather than start a separate thread….
FYI
Scottish sport routes have been starting to appear in the Trad section of Recent Top Ascents. Moy and Goat crags for example.
Hi Remus, I have become the moderator for several crags around Beinn a Bheithir (above Ballachulish). There are several duplicates of climbs across these crags and many people have logged both. Is it possible to merge climbs across crags? I can only see how to merge within the same crag. For example:
There are two Schoolhouse ridges both with over 100 logs but on separate crags. This route No match for climb id:146071
Should really be merged into the one on Sghorr Bhan: East-North-East ridge [Schoolhouse Ridge] (Winter) (I)
Same for the summer routes of the same name.
There are a couple of other examples like this that I would like to sort out, it's generally a bit of a mess. ( e.g No match for climb id:625385 and Dog Leg Gully (II/III)) Are you able to merge routes across different crags? Would be a shame for lots of people to loose their logs and photos.
Cheers.
That happened last year too.
I've sorted those.
Seems to arise from some of the imports from the SMC data. I'll look into it next week.
Thanks Paul!
Sorry to be a pain but please could we re-shuffle the following:
Move Dog Leg Gully (II/III) to Beinn a' Bheithir - Sgorr Bhan
Merge and move the summer scramble No match for climb id:123914 over to Sgorr Bhan: East-North-East Ridge [Schoolhouse ridge] (Summer) (Grade-1)
move Central Gully (III) over to Beinn a' Bheithir - Sgorr Bhan
I can sort the order and buttress dividers out from there. Many thanks!
No problem. That's sorted.
Can I be added as a moderator for Cochamó?
There's currently no order to a list of routes that are spread across several different valleys, never mind buttresses.
Also it should be written Cochamó.
I've added you.
Remus told me to get in touch regarding La Pedriza, I'm out here at the moment and the logbooks are an absolute mess. I have a the time and inclination to sort them out to a readable state and remove all the doubles.
I've added you.
Thanks for that, already making some good headway on it. On that note I've requested a new crag for the bouldering in pedriza, how easy is it for you to transfer over all the boulder problems into this new crag?
I'll sort that move out on Monday.
Could you also move the route under el parajo buttress divider into the posterior Pedriza crag please
I'd like to separate Bovey Woods into Bovey Woods - Bearacleave Area and Bovey Woods - Shaptor Woods Area (i.e. two separate pages). The current page is so cumbersome to navigate as there are so many problems and as the two woods have separate land owners, it makes sense to do this from that point of view too. All else would be the same (apart from a tweak to parking information). How could this be done?
Crag Requested
Looking to mod these crags, lots of updates needed (especially on Leigh Woods).
I emailed a mod from each through the site a couple weeks ago but didn't hear back.
When using the 'Select Crag Thumbnail' button, there doesn't seem to be any way to choose a photo from anything other than the first page of photos. I like to regularly change the crag thumbnail for a crag I moderate, The Spot, The Spot which has a lot of good photos but I'm restricted to only those shown on Page 1 of the many photos available. Am I missing something or is this just a known situation?
Hi,
Can the crag Gjokeredet
Be renamed to "Gjøkeredet" with the ø instead of o.
I've accidentally merged the summer and winter entries for The Great Corner (E2 5b) at Llech Ddu (Black Slab) as they were both given the summer grade of E2! Apologies, but please could this be undone?
Many thanks in advance.
> I've accidentally merged the summer and winter entries for The Great Corner (E2 5b) at Llech Ddu (Black Slab) as they were both given the summer grade of E2! Apologies, but please could this be undone?
> Many thanks in advance.
I think I read somewhere that a the top pitch has had a significant rockfall and wasn't climbable. anyone have any up-to-date information?
Would it be possible to move this problem: Super Beetle (V5) to this crag: Glenmarksie Bouldering
Thanks.
hi Remus
as moderator for church bay ynys mon, can we change the name from church bay to its Welsh name of porth swtan please?
cheers Phil
Any chance I can be made moderator for a moment to sort it out?
Can we have the Font 1 / 1+ grades added to the range for boulder problems please? Request from someone adding problems to a sector in Font. Bleau.info and the guidebooks list problems on the Yellow circuit as 1s or 1+s, but the logbooks don't support this as a grade currently. Minimum grade seems to be Font 2.
Font grade 1 example:
https://bleau.info/hautepierre/309444.html
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/haute_pierre-32958/
Thanks
Tom Paine's Bones (Right-hand Start) (6a+) (Rockfax linked so can't remove) is on the wrong crag - should be at Goat Crag.
Also someone notified me as moderator that Sula (E2 5b) should be ***, again I can't change it.
Sorry for the delay. I've added you.
The way our system works to enable you select Font or V grades as a default preference and everything just shows in that system relies on a 1 to 1 lookup. See below.
I invented V3+ and V4+ to make this work.
The very low end V grades like VB, VM, VE already existed. I'd rather not add Font 1 or 1+, primarily because I have no idea what to call a Font 1 or 1+ in the V system. If anyone has a suggestion for a V version of Font 1 and 1+ the please let me know.
Hi Andy,
That's moved: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/goat_crag-9275/tom_paines_bones_ri...
Rockfax grades and stars don't take precedence anymore, I've changed the stars from 1 to 3 on UKC and that's showing now for Sula (E2 5b)
Hi, thanks Paul, for the detailed reply. I see the gap now.
In principle, you could add "Vc" = Font 1 and "Vd" = Font 1+, to sit just above the existing level of Font 2 = Ve? It's clunky, but possibly straightforward to add?
I've just searched for where I got VE and VM from but can't find it. They're not part of the official Hueco system though. I think that was just Very Easy and Very Moderate.
> In principle, you could add "Vc" = Font 1 and "Vd" = Font 1+
What would Vc and Vd represent?
Hi, Vc and Vd wouldn't represent anything, they would just be to provide a non-zero and unique value in your mapping table if you need one, working back up the alphabet from "Ve". People might select them if they see them as options at the bottom of the v-grade list. Personally, I would map all Ordering levels 0-5 on your mapping table all to V0. As you say, no-one currently recognises VE or VM either.
The problem statement is: how do the ukc logbooks support the full range of Font circuit grades currently used.
Also at Goat Crag, No match for climb id:125348, The Prow – Right-Hand Finish (7c+) appears twice, and moderator can't delete either.
has its own logbook page but (most of) the climbs are also listed under Kilt Rock, Staffin
That's more bad data from the SMC import. That's sorted.
Hiya, something went awry adding https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/helsby-1055/gardeners_question_tim... with a couple of duplicates, the crag doesn’t seem to be actively moderated. Could you oblige?
Please could you merge Kellan Slab with Kellan Head (where it is already a buttress). Once merged, I'll sort out duplicates etc. (I'm currently working on the for the next CC guide.)
Farrletter Crag should be spelled Farrletter.
Same applies to Wee Farrletter actually.
Thanks, updated.
No match for climb id:33298 and Spider Left-Hand (HVS 5a) are the same route. I think the Wired guidebook is the first to have called it left-hand as opposed to just Spider, hence the duplication.
No, that's not correct.
Spider is the obvious crack line (the right hand line), it was simply called Spider in the 1980 guide. This was named Spider Right Hand around 1990 when a new guide came out and they realised there were two routes there. The Wired guide corrected an earlier mistake.
Ah, ok.
In any case No match for climb id:33298 is described on here as being the left of the two lines, with both Spider Left-Hand (HVS 5a) and Spider Right-Hand (VS 4c) both also listed. There shouldn't be three separate routes.
So what's the consensus. Which 2 needs merging?
I'm fairly sure, with the description and the fact that it's not in my own logbook, that No match for climb id:33298 and Spider Left-Hand (HVS 5a) should be merged, and that the grade should be HVS. And by the sound of it, the name should be Spider Left-Hand.
Thanks, that's sorted.
Another duplicate thing, I'm struggling to get the climb links but South East Ridge on the South Peak of The Cobbler is shown twice.
There is a set of general problems with OS Grid references ...
1/ Grid Letter Square of "0." rather than say NZ or SN - appears across the whole UK, the numeric part of the ref appears to be OK - but needs to be checked.
2/ Missing leading zeros (in most cases the letter square is correct!)
2a/ 111111111. (trailing .) should be 0111111111
2b/ 12123 should be 012123, S Wales is badly affected. Main clue is an odd number of numbers. BUT There are also (at least one) 4 fig refs missing two leading zeros.
A DB search could compile a first list of required fixes?
Please could you merge Kellan Slab with Kellan Head, I'll then sort out duplicates etc. (as requested in my post of 10th July, which I think you must have missed).
Hello. Is it possible to have Austrian Klettersteig grades added for selection as Via Ferrata difficulty when adding new routes?
See here (Schall scale): https://www.bergfreunde.eu/via-ferrata-grades-calculator/
This would be very useful for maintaining an accurate database as the equivalence between the Austrain system and currently available system in the UKC database is not obvious (to me at least).
Thanks, James
Hmm, it's due to the import from SMC's Highland Scrambles and Scottish Rock Climbs. It's the same route but in 2 different guides. We're looking into the issue.
Could you have a look at the duplicates at Helsby, mentioned earlier? I can mod if the existing people have gone quiet.
Would you be able to shift some buttresses and the climbs in them from one crag to another?
I’ve created this crag:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/west_head_area-33308/
Could you move these buttresses to it:
From https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/redhythe_point-2120/
move The Black Wall, Rolling Stones Buttress and Wee West Wal.
From https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/john_woods_hole-33070/
move John Wood’s Hole Stack and Octonauts Wall
Thanks
Sorry, I missed the previous message. I've cleaned the duplicates and added you as a moderator.
They're moved into West Head Area. It messed up the buttress headers a bit though so can you re-order those. Thanks, Paul.
Perfect, thanks Paul!
Thanks for doing that. Have sorted the headers.
is it possible to move both of the topos on https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/redhythe_point-2120/#topos across too?
Cheers, Graham
Thanks for the reminder, I'll update the move script to include the topos.
I've done it manually in this case.
Maybe not your remit Paul, but (and it's one I've asked before) is there a way to select a Crag Thumbnail that's not on the first page of the crag photos? At present there's no way of flicking through the photo pages and selecting a thumbnail from anything but p.1. First World problems, I know!
If you email URLs to the crag and thumbnail image, I'll change it for you.
Thanks, but what I was meaning is for it to be possible for a moderator to regularly change the thumbnail, so folk might see a new image and try the route or sector in question. The crags I'd hoped to have this function for are The Spot and Balgone Heughs
Have just remembered that there were topos on: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/john_woods_hole-33070/#topos
and a photo on: https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/john_woods_hole-33070/#photos
Could these be moved to https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/west_head_area-33308/
Thanks again.
Graham